Would You As Pastor allow Homosexuals To Frolic In Your Church?

[Andy C Wuhraizer]

Vermont has just okayed what they call "same sex mariages". It is very sad that we humans who are supposed to be the most intelligent creatures on earth, dont even understand or appreciate the sacred purpose of marriage. The reason why God instituted marriage is for reproduction, plus nothing, minus nothing. The sole reason why we are created male and female, or exibit some form of sexuality is to reproduce. If we didnt have to reproduce after our kind, we wont have any devices for sex. Angels dont reproduce and as such are sexless beings. Everything else God put on earth comes in pairs of male and female. Even birds know this. Have you ever gone bird-watching and seen two male birds weaving a nest and trying to raise a family?
You dont have to be a rocket scientist in order to understand that another man's behind was neither designed by God nor evolution for sex. The anus is not a sexul organ, period. So that if you want to use a body feature designed to accomplish one task for a completely senseless one then there is something wrong with your perception. You are like the man who sees a deer and calls it an elephant. Something is wrong upstairs!! What is the purpose of a so called same sex marriage. Sexual pleasure so they speak. But pleasure is not the purpose for sex.The pleasure part is secondary. God made sex pleasurable, why? Because if it had felt like surgery, you would have to hold a gun to your partner's head to have children. Homosexuals have taken the "purpose" out and are going gang-ho after the "pleasure".WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PLEASURE-SEEKING IN THE LAST DAYS?
As A pastor the only way I would allow a homosexual in my congregation if they understand that homosexuality, just all other deviations , is wrong and they came to church to seek help like all of us do. But if a homosexual shows up in church all cocky and full of gay pride and trying to peddle his ware in the church, I will chase him out with a baseball bat!!! lol!
You just said "wow, he hates homosexuals!", right? Wrong. As a pastor you cant hate anybody because of their sin.It will be like a Doctor hating a patient because the latter has a form of cancer the Doctor dreads.But if the patient tells the Doc, "Leave my cancer a lone. I was born with it, and I am proud of it." Well, then get out of the hospital! I dont hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. You dont hate the sinner, you hate the sin. You have to hate the sin enough to be able to help the sinner. On the other hand if you love the sin, you yourself might just get caught up in it.I consider it a disgrace to the human race that we allow behavior that even some animals shy away from.

[Lester Demings Jr]

JUDGING is what these people do all day.
I haven't found that scripture that gives them that authority but they'll twist a scripture faster than a jackleg preacher can take up an offering lol!!!

[Maria]

all you're doing is using scripture to justify hating a group of people, it's sad.

60 years ago this discussion would be about finding scripture to prove why interracial marriages went against god.

[Maria]

my point is the interpretation of scripture changes with the times, it is much too often used to justify hate. it has been used to justify slavery, residential schools, the banning of interracial marriages, and currently, the opposition towards gay marriage....theres always a group that scripture targets, currently "god" is agianst gay marriage, 60 years ago he was against interracial marriage....

Many warnings are given in the Bible not to mate with "the stranger. "But the Hebrew words translated "stranger" in these verses are "ZUWR", "NEKAR", and "NOKRI" and each one means A PERSON OF A DIFFERENT RACE FROM OURS. (There are other Hebrew words, "ger" and "toshab", meaning persons who are aliens only in a political sense, but of our race.) The warning against race mixing is always against those "strangers" who are ZUWR, NEKAR, or NOKRI. For example.

PROVERBS 23:27 "For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange (ZUWR) woman is a narrow pit.

The reason for the warning is clear. MONGRELIZATION IS THE WORST FORM OF "GENOCIDE". If you kill 99% of a race, but leave the other 1% pure blooded, they will in time restore the race. But, when you mongrelize them, you have destroyed that race eternally. Once mixed with the Black or Yellow Races, the White Race would be totally and forever destroyed. Hence, God has forbidden it.

PSALM 144:11-12 "Rid me and deliver me from the hand of a strange (NEKAR) children, whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood: That OUR SONS may be as plants grown up in their youth, that OUR DAUGHTERS may be as the polished cornices of a palace."

there i just proved with scripture why interracial marriage is wrong.

[Maria]

Genesis 9:25-27. According to the Bible, the worldwide flood had concluded and there were only 8 humans alive on earth: Noah, his wife, their six sons and daughters in law. Noah's son Ham had seen "the nakedness of his father." So, Noah laid a curse -- not on Ham, who was guilty of some type of indiscretion. The sin was transferred to Noah's grandson Canaan. Such transference of sin from a guilty to an innocent person or persons is unusual in the world's religious and secular moral codes. It is normally considered highly unethical. However, it appears in many biblical passages. The curse extended to all of Canaan's descendants:

Genesis 9:25-27: "Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers. He also said, 'Blessed be the Lord, the God of Shem! May Canaan be the slave of Shem. May God extend the territory of Japheth; may Japeth live in the tents of Shem and may Canaan be his slave'. "

Christians traditionally believed that Canaan had settled in Africa. The dark skin of Africans became associated with this "curse of Ham." Thus slavery of Africans became religiously justifiable.

there - i used scripture to justify slavery. god said that it was the right thing to do.
my point it - don't let your common sense completely escape.

[Maria]

i'll say it again, my point is: scripture is too often used to justify hate.
currently the church is focused on gay marriage, 60 years ago the issue was interracial marriage. neither of these are wrong.
sometimes you have to look past scripture and use common sense.

[Maria]

i got if from websites of people who claim to be religious. only idiots justify hate, i wouldn't and couldn't come up with that garbage myself lol...
it sounds like you're against interracial marriages to from your last comment lol...what are you, a new black panther? lol...

[Maria]

i'll say it again, the point is, god doesn't justify hate, man does. man said god justified slavery and banning interracial marriages. it's the exact same thing with gay marriage. you can find scripture to prove anything you want.
we are all created by god. looking at logistics, who would god create something he hated?
i know you have your own beliefs and you think that homosexuals minds are taken over by the devil.
but i suggest you really go out into your community and get to know some homosexuals. you say you have family members that turned straight? i can guarantee they are still gay and say they're straight to avoid harsh treatment and judgement from the church. now that is sad.

[Maria]

religious people only take credit for what god created if they like what he created.

the main question: the answer is people are born gay. that is a proven fact. what's a logical reason why someone would "become" gay as you say.
gay marriage is fine. two people who love each other have every right to get married.

[Deweyne J Robinson, Sr.]

Amen

[Lonnie Kluttz]

Maria,

Did you read any scriptures I gave you? All the info you are quoting isn't in the bible. But, you say you are a child of God. No one is judging you.....or I'm not. Just read the scriptures I gave you are you will see that God didn't greate gay people. People aren't born gay. I see that it's hard for you to believe, but He didn't. Why would He create gay people and then kill them. Remeber Sodom and Gamorrah, If you don't read the story. Scientist has change God's Law to fit the law of science. Science and God don't mix, because it won't make sense. Just read what I sent you and let God speak to you.

God Bless

[Lonnie Kluttz]

Hi Brother Morah,

Stop attacking this young lady. She is very confused and lost. If you aren't going to help her find God/YHWH, then leave her alone. You are pushing her away more than helping her understand what God/YHWH wants her to know. She won't listen if you are always attacking. You need to cut it out with the Christian comments also. Your right, not all people are God's/YHWH people, but the point is to help them see the light, not piss them off so they won't see the light.

God Bless

[Maria]

i am a child of god just as much as you are. i'm not confused or lost.
god isn't killing any gay people today tho, right...why do straight people keep having gay children?
and if god hates homosexuals so much...why does he keep making them?
i also suggest that you get to know some gay people.