The Trinity is Bibical

[Rev. Derek Joshua E'Lon]

Is The Trinity Biblical?
From the Christian Research Institute
www.equip.org
The Trinity is a basic doctrine of orthodox Christianity. Yet the word "Trinity" is not found anywhere in the Bible. Is the doctrine of the Trinity really biblical?
The doctrine of the Trinity says that there is one All Mighty One (God) who exists eternally as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I can assure you that the elements of this doctrine are all taken directly from the Bible.
The first plank of the Trinitarian platform is that there is only one All Mighty One (God). The Bible could not be more explicit on this point, which it states explicitly about two dozen times. In Isaiah 44:8 Yahweh (The LORD) says that even He does not know of any other (mighty ones)gods!
Yahshua (Jesus) often spoke of the All Mighty One (God) as His Father, and the apostles frequently spoke of "the Almighty One (God) the Father." But the New Testament also insists that Yahshua (Jesus) is The Almighty One (God). For example, Thomas acknowledged Yahshua (Jesus) as, "My Lord(master) and my Almighty One (God)" (John 20:28), and both Peter and Paul spoke of Yahshua (Jesus) as "our All Mighty One (God) and Savior" (2 Pet. 1:1; Tit. 2:13). Yet the New Testament also makes the distinction between the Father and the Son as two very different persons. In fact they tell us that they love one another, speak to each other, and seek to glorify each other (e.g., John 17: 1-26).
The Old Testament refers often to the Holy Spirit as The Almighty One (God) at work in the world, without distinction from the Father. But Yahshua (Jesus) in John 14 to 16 explained that this Holy Spirit would be sent by the Father at the Messiah’s (Christ's) request. The Holy Spirit would teach and guide the disciples, not speaking on His own initiative, but speaking on the Messiah’s 9Christ's) behalf and glorifying The messiah (Christ). Thus, the Holy Spirit is revealed by The Messiah (Christ) to be a third person distinct from the Father and distinct from the Son.
In short, the doctrine of the Trinity is completely and totally biblical, and it is essential that all the Followers of the Messiah Yahshua (Christians) give assent to this doctrine.

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

Bro. Watson.. go get you some wavy lays potato chips or pretzels! LOL

[God's Army]

Reading through this discussion for the past couple of days, I would have to say, if I had to bet on the one who presented the best scriptural text for this topic and the baptism, I’d have to go with the Oneness belief.

It seems as though something is being lost here. Many scriptures provide proof that the Apostles were God’s chosen vessels and thus continuing in their Doctrine would be the same as continuing in the Doctrine of Jesus Christ. Acts 2:38. Trinitarians have no explanation for the many scriptures in Acts on the Baptism, that refute their doctrine so they usually provide no explanation at all.

It would seem that if Jesus told Peter, Upon this rock I will build my church, that Peter had to have enough information and understanding to baptize the way Jesus intended. In the name of Jesus Christ. What I am not seeing from the Trinitarian side is an explanation as to why they don’t baptize in Jesus Name. Outside of the network, I have heard those that say, they’d rather obey God than man. That statement is a round about way of saying that the Apostles were wrong and I will not follow what they say, but what Jesus says. That my friend creates a problem in our whole concept of ministry. How can we use anything said or written by the apostles if we can’t use their examples of the Baptism. I don’t think that the Godhead is being understood which is why you all can’t see the reason that baptizing in Jesus name covers all administrations in the Godhead.

Why do Trinitarians go on the defensive rather than explaining the many scriptures that contradict their beliefs. The foundation of their belief is built on one scripture and when asked to explain why they refuse to adhere to the Apostles doctrine, they typically can’t. I do see the Trinitarians asking often, who was God speaking to in various versus. Understanding that God is omnipresent would help in understanding who he is talking to. To not see that Jesus and his father are one and that the Holy Spirit is God dwelling in us, is to say that we are worshipping 3 separate Gods.

I hear Trinitarians saying that there is but one God, yet you divide him up into 3 different personS. How is this possible? How can they be different yet one. When the scripture says that a husband and wife are one, it says and they 2 shall become one. They become one upon joining. However, with the Godhead, Jesus is in the father and the father is in Jesus, likewise with the holy ghost. There was not joining together of the 3 to form one. They have always been one.

I see many players here and have gone through the statements. No disrespect to anyone, however it is my hope that those of you who are Trinitarian, would look a little deeper into this subject and reference the scriptures provided. Contrary to what you might believe, the scriptures makes it clear that Baptism is required for salvation and the remission of sins. It would b a shame to be lost on a technicality. If you have to go in the water again for the sake of your soul, please do it. The bible says, One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Jesus and his disciples were on one accord so don’t you think we should be as well. The apostles can’t be wrong so it must be a misunderstanding in scriptural verbiage. Don’t lose your soul over an argument. This thing has been going on since December 2008 and Trinitarians still can't see the importance of the Baptism in it's proper context. I will not get into this debate but will leave my 2 cents on the table. Much Love in Christ. God Bless everyone.

[God's Army]

One last note, brothers an sisters. I do understand why and how the Doctrine of Trinity was formed and I do see how one can be confused. Be encouraged my friends, and in seeking God, he will have answers for you. Much Love in Christ. God Bless everyone.

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

*sigh* the music continues to play the same ole song on. The Theology merry go round has no end. Hurry hurry hurry get your red hot scriptures here. Just when you thought the show was over...it has just gotten its second wind.

Pick a topic any topic and you too can get on this ride. Don't worry about which scriptures to use... There are plenty to choose to prove the point of your "side".

Oh wait a winner was already declared. The Trinitarians lost by a nose. This evening arose One who declared themself the One to choose the winner. But its not a game is it?

[Rev. Eric Culberson Jr.]

Tracy B. picture me pulling you out, you getting sucked back in like I am but I want to help both of us lets get out now! LOL

[Rev. Eric Culberson Jr.]

My arm is extened to you Preacher!! LOL!

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Brothers and sisters in Christ,

I took time to read all your comments.

I ask the trinitarians to answer my questions below:

Why can't Trinitarians explain how three ( 3 ) distinct PERSONS can be ONE God?

How can THREE people be only ONE God?

Not only, there is no biblical passage which supports this, but that indicates even a gap of reasoning. Three distinct people, although identical in their substance make three gods or the language does not have any more a sense!

Indeed, in the Heaven, on the Throne, there are not two or three people seated side by side. There is only one person sitting on the Throne. He is Jesus-Christ, the true God and eternal Life (1John 5: 20).

Let us look at the Throne!”

“And above the firmament over their heads was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like a sapphire stone; on the likeness of the throne was a likeness with the appearance of A MAN high above it. Also from the appearance of His waist and upward I saw, as it were, the color of amber with the appearance of fire all around within it; and from the appearance of His waist and downward I saw, as it were, the appearance of fire with brightness all around”.

Ezekiel 1:26-27

How many people, did Ezekiel see on the Throne? On Person:

Jesus, the Almighty God, because Jesus said that All authority has been given to Him in Heaven and on Earth (Matthew 28: 18).

Ezekiel saw the image of the glory of the Eternal and fell on his face. He did not see two or three people as a God, but he saw only one person.

I also, by the Holy Spirit, do not see two or three people as a God, but I see only one person, Jesus-Christ.

Daniel also trough a vision saw God the Ancient of Days, seated lonely on His throne.

“ I watched till thrones were put in place, And the Ancient of Days was seated; His garment was white as snow, And the hair of His head was like pure wool. His throne was a fiery flame, Its wheels a burning fire; A fiery stream issued And came forth from before Him. A thousand thousands ministered to Him; Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him. The court was seated, And the books were opened”.

Daniel 7:9-10

Let us see also What John saw on the single Great White Throne of Judgment:

“Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them”.

Revelation 20:11

How many people, did John see on the Throne? On Person: Jesus, the Almighty God who will judge the living and the dead a His appearing and His kingdom:

“I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom”:

2 Timothy 4:1

“Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb”.

Revelation 22:1

Brother, I want to ask you also a question:

If the Throne is for the Lamb and God according to the verse above, so do you believe that there are two gods sitted side by side on the single Throne?

There is not a single Throne for two or three people in Heaven. No!

You are spiritually blind!

May God open your eyes!

God (Yahweh) is the one Who is called the Lamb. JESUS IS THE ALMIGTHTY GOD AND THE LAMB SEATED ON THE THRONE (Revelation 7:10-17; 22:1-6; 6:16-17; 14:1).

“When he saw JESUS passing by, he said, "Look, the Lamb of God!"
John 1:36

“Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!" The four living creatures said, "Amen," and the elders fell down and worshiped”.

Revelation 5:13-14

Now, I would like ask you an other question for it seems to me that you put the stress on word “AND”.

Indeed, you said:

“Did you catch that? "Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, AND unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
Again I ask you...."Who does The Lamb of God take the book from? "Who is the one sitting on the Throne?"
Let's read some more to confirm;
Rev.21
[22] And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
Again we have TWO!!! throughout the WHOLE bible we have TWO!! Now just how do YOU get ONLY ONE!!! »

"AND"

OK !

Now, let us read the following verse :

“awaiting the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ; who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all lawlessness, and purify to himself a peculiar people, zealous for good works”.

Titus 2:13-14

Brother, the Bible also says “ the glory of our great God AND Saviour Jesus Christ…”

Is the glory for two persons or for ONE person?

"AND"

So, do you see TWO PERSONS here?

You must stop your false teachings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus is not a small god beside Yahweh the great God, but Jesus Himself is our great God and Savior. Yahweh, the Savior in the Old Testament is Jesus the Savior in the New Testament Insofar as there are not two gods or two saviors. Amen!

Please, answer this question:

“To whom then will ye liken God? and what likeness will ye compare unto him?

Isaiah 40:18

God is one!!!!

Our great God and Saviour is Jesus Christ!!!

Now, I would like to ask you a question:

Ezekiel saw one person on the Throne. Daniel saw one person on the throne. John also saw one person on the Throne. But why do you see two Gods: God (Jesus the Son) beside God (Yahweh the Father)? Why?

Isaiah also saw one person on the Throne:

“In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and the train of His robe filled the temple”.

Isaiah 6:1

Why do you see THREE OR TWO people in God?

He who will judge all of us is the Lord Jesus-Christ (1 Corinthians 4:1-5)
God is the Judge of all:

“to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in Heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect”

Hebrews 12:23

The Holy Scriptures declares that Jesus is the Judge, and God is the Judge.
Do you see two Gods, two people, two Judges?

Jesus is the single Judge: He is the Almighty God manifested in the flesh:

“John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,”

Revelation 1:4-5

He who is and who was and who is to come, is the single person who is sitted on the single Throne. The Almighty God is.

Jesus-Christ is the one Who is, Who was and Who is to come:

“Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 1:7-8

“And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death”.

Revelation 1:17-18

Do you see two or three Gods? Do you see two or three people?
Jesus-Christ is the righteous Judge. It is Him who sat on the throne! There are not two or three people on the same throne! No!

Please, see the aspect of this man sitting on the throne! See! Please compare the description made by Ezekiel of the Eternal (Ezekiel 1:26 - 28), and that done by Daniel of Ancient of the Days (Daniel 7: 9-13), with the one done by John (Revelation 1: 12-18).

What do we see? We see the description of God, of Jesus-Christ. When John saw Him, he fell like Ezekiel did. AMEN!

It is Him! It is the same one! It is the same person! O I Love Him! I’ve found Him! He is Jesus-Christ, the Almighty God!!!

Brother,

Let us see also What John saw on the single Great White Throne of Judgment:

“Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away.
And there was found no place for them”.

Revelation 20:11

How many people, did John see on the Throne? On Person: Jesus, the Almighty God who will judge the living and the dead a His appearing and His kingdom:

“I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom”

2 Timothy 4:1

If the Bible says "before God AND the Lord Jesus Christ", is it because you see the word "AND", that you should believe that there are TWO GODS, TWO PERSONS who will judge the living and the dead?

The Bible says".... at His appearing and His kingdom...."

"HIS" = ONE PERSON, ONE GOD, namely Jesus Christ. Amen!

Moreover, if the Bible says “Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb”.

Revelation 22:1

Is it because you see the phrase: "the throne of God AND the Lamb", that you should believe that the Throne is for TWO GODS, TWO PERSONS?

No, Jesus-Christ is the righteous Judge. It is Him who sat on the throne! There are not two or three people on the same throne! No!

"GOD AND THE LAMB" = ONE PERSON, ONE GOD, namely Jesus Christ. Amen!

Let us pray for the Trinitarians for they are spiritually blind. Yes they are B L I N D!

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Sister Caral said :

« …Conversely my question of whether you believe that The Father is The Son, would help me immensely in understanding more fully your doctrine per se, but alas, I didn't receive a reply.”

Be blessed

Caral”


IS THE FATHER THE SON?

Dear sister Caral, as for His nature, God (Yahweh) is Spirit (John 4: 24). As a Spirit, no one has seen Him (John 1: 18). This is why He is called “invisible God” (1Timothy 1: 17, 6: 16).

Those who saw God in the Old Testament saw Him in the form of the Eternal (Yahweh) and those who want to see Him in the New Testament must see Him in the form of the Lord Jesus, as Immanuel, God with us (Matthew 1: 23).

Thus, the Father appeared in the Son. God is Spirit and He came as a Lord in a human body.

This is the reason why all the names or attributes which we find in connection with God, we also find them in connection with the Lord Jesus.

Indeed, God is one. The Bible is monotheist(Isaiah 45:5;18). All those who believe that there are three persons in God are polytheists.

Jesus is not a small god beside the great God Yahweh, but He is God manifested in the flesh. In Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (Colossians 2:8-9).
Amen!

God of the Old Testament is Jesus-Christ of the New Testament. Didn’t Isaiah prophesy about the divinity of Jesus? Let us see it!

« For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace”.

Isaiah 9:6

Don't you believe that the Son is the same one who is called Our Heavenly Father? Do you see two distinct people here? It is the same person who has the attributes of Father, Son, Mighty God, Counselor, Wonderful, Holy Spirit etc.

“And the Angel of the LORD said to him, “Why do you ask My name, seeing it is wonderful?”

Judges 13:18

The Father is God (1Corinthians 15: 24). The Father is not the Son when we refer only to the physical body in which God has been incarnated: the man Jesus. God took a body of flesh (1Timothy 3: 16). This body of flesh called Jesus was a man (hundred percent). God took a body of flesh so that He could suffer and die in order to save us (Isaiah 35: 4, Philippians 2: 5-8; Hebrews 2:9, 17; 12:2).

For this reason and for this reason only, any believer must confess that Jesus is the engendered Son of God by the Holy Spirit. It is here about the man Jesus (1Timothy 2: 5). Coming from God, His blood, His thoughts, and all His life were perfectly holy and without sin. The death and the devil did not have any power, any authority on Him. This body of flesh is comparable to the bronze serpent in the desert:

“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life”.

John 3:14-15

Jesus, the son of Man was comparable to the serpent made by Moses. That serpent was an insignificant stuff, without life. But God put His life, His healing power in it. It was lifted up by Moses.

O Hallelujah! God, the source of the life was in this apparently trivial and inanimate bronze serpent. The Bible declares that: “So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived” (Numbers 21: 9).

In the same way, Jesus was a Man (hundred percent) created by God Himself (called Son of God), in which He put his own life in order to save us:
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life”.

John 3:16

“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life”.

John 3:14-15

Do you understand now why the Holy Scriptures compare the Man Jesus to the bronze serpent?

“For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus”

1Timothy 2:5

Do you understand the Holy Scriptures? The Man Jesus, the Mediator between God and men is really God manifested in flesh.

There are not two or three people, but there is one God.

Indeed, Jesus said:

“I and My Father are one.”

John 10:30

“Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves”

John 14:9-11

“And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me”.

John 12:45

“No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him”.

John 1:18

“All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him”.

Matthew 11:27

Consequently, the Father is the Son or the Son is the Father if we refer only to Jesus-Christ as the Holy Spirit.
Indeed, to overcome death and the devil, it was absolutely necessary that He was divine (hundred percent).
The Bible teaches that:

”For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on Earth or things in Heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross”.

Colossians 1:19-20

“For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;”

Colossians 2:9

It is for this reason that any believer must confess that Jesus-Christ is God (Yahweh). He is not a small god, who might be the second person of the trinity. He is not a small god beside Yahweh, but:

-the Powerful God, our Heavenly Father (Isaiah 9: 5-6),
-the true God and eternal life (1John 5: 20),
-the eternally blessed God(Romans 9: 5),
-Our great God and our Savior Jesus-Christ (Titus 2: 13),
-Immanuel: God with us (Matthew 1: 23) Alleluia!!!!
-the Alpha and the Omega, the Lord God, Who is, Who was, Who is to come, THE ALMIGHTY(Revelation 1:7-8)

As you see, Jesus has a double nature: divine and human:

« What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!”

John 6:62

Before, He was God (Yahweh). He became flesh, Son of Man in order to save us. He ascended where He was before. Then, He appeared to Saul on the Damascus road:

"And he said, “Who are You, Lord?” Then the Lord said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads.”

Acts 9:5

In Heaven, there is Jesus alone. There aren’t two “Gods” (the Father and His son) sitting side by side on the throne. No!


JESUS (JAHSHUA) IS THE NAME OF GOD (YAHWEH) WHO SAVES US


“And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS”.

Luke 1:31

Our Lord Jesus said:

“Father, glorify Your name.” Then a voice came from Heaven, saying, “I have both glorified it and will glorify it again.”

John 12:28

What is the name of the Father, which He has glorified?
« In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in Heaven, Hallowed be Your name”.

Matthew 6:9

What is the name of the Father, which must be hallowed?

Our Heavenly Father Himself has said:

“I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name LORD I was not known to them”.

Exodus 6:3

We notice here that God (Yahweh) at various periods appeared to His servants under different names. The Holy Scriptures does not say expressly that “Father” is the name by which God appears to us today. No passage attests that!
However, the Bible reveals:

“God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they”.

Hebrews 1:1-4

Which name has the Son Who is the brightness of the glory and the express image of the person of God (YAHWEH) obtained by inheritance?

What is the name which is more excellent than that of the angels?

Besides, the Bible declares:

“No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him”.

John 1:18

Indeed, the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father said to the Father:

“I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word”.

John 17:6

What is the name of the Father, which has been manifested by His Son?
The Man Jesus said:

“I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive”.

John 5:43

What is JESUS’ FATHER’S NAME?
The name implies the authority, the character, the rank, the Majesty, the Capacity and the Excellency of the named person. The personal name of God (Yahweh) is JESUS (YAHSHUA).

This name represents all the characteristics of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. This is why the Apostles were ordered to announce the Word of God to the nations in this name:

“So they called them and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of JESUS”.

Acts 4:18

The name of JESUS (JAHSHUA) means “GOD SAVES”:

“And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins.”

Matthew 1:21

« Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Acts 4:12

The name of JESUS contains the ESSENCE of the Divinity in the titles Father, Son and Holy Spirit, for Jesus is the Savior, the Redeemer and the Liberator.

- Even the demons are subject to the Disciples in the name of JESUS.

Luke 10:17

- Where two or three are gathered together in the name of JESUS, He is there in the midst of them.

Matthew 18:20

- Repentance and remission of sins should be preached in the name of JESUS to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Luke 24:47

- To Him all the prophets witness that, through His NAME (JESUS), whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins.

Acts 10:43

- By believing that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, we may have life in His name (JESUS).

John 20:31

- At the name of JESUS every knee should bow, of those in Heaven, and of those on Earth, and of those under the Earth.

Philippians 2:10

“And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God”.

1 John 5:11-13

We must believe in the name of the Son of God in order to have Eternal life. This name is JESUS.

Now, can someone answer my questions?

Our Lord Jesus said:

“Father, glorify Your name.” Then a voice came from heaven, saying, “I have both glorified it and will glorify it again.”

John 12:28

What is the name of the Father, which He has glorified?
Besides, the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father said to the Father:

“I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word”.

John 17:6

What is the name of the Father, which has been manifested by His Son?

Without question, the name of the Father is JESUS. AMEN!

“And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord JESUS, giving thanks to God the Father through Him”.

Colossians 3:17

Please, tell me, if the name of the Father is JESUS, do you still see two people, two Gods in the biblical passage above?

If you still see JESUS as a small god beside the great God (YAHWEH), then, you need to have a revelation from God. May God enlighten you!

If you still see JESUS as the second Person of the trinity, then, you need to have a revelation from God. May God enlighten you!

Indeed, the Bible says:

« For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God”.

Colossians 3:3

Christ and God(Yahweh) are not two different people. There are not two different gods in whom our life is hidden. Christ and God stand for ONE PERSON. AMEN!
JESUS is God (YAHWEH) manifested in the flesh. The Father’s name is JESUS.

AMEN!

- The name of the Father, which must be hallowed, is JESUS.

Matthew 6:9

- The name of the Father, which He has glorified, is JESUS.
John 12:28

- The name of the Father, which has been manifested by His Son, is JESUS.

John 17:6, 26

- The name of the Father through which we are kept is JESUS.

John 17:11

- The name of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit for the baptism by immersion is JESUS.

Matthew 28: 19; Acts 2: 38

“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever”.

Hebrews 13:8

JESUS SAID: “HE WHO SEES ME SEES HIM WHO SENT ME.” (John 12:45)

Indeed, God is Spirit (John 4: 24), consequently, He is invisible (1Timithy 6:16; 1:17; Exodus 33:20).

This is why the Bible declares:

“If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?”

1 John 4: 20

However, in the Old Testament, several people have seen God.
For example:

- Abraham had seen God (Yahweh). He had seen three Men. One of them was the LORD manifested in the flesh. The Almighty GOD took a body of flesh and ate with Abraham (Genesis 18: 1-33). AMEN!

-“Jacob had seen God face to face” (Genesis 32:30) AMEN!

- Moses, Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, had seen the God of Israel. They saw God, and they ate and drank (Exodus 24: 9). AMEN!

- The LORD spoke to Moses face to face, as a Man speaks to his friend (Exodus 33:11). AMEN!

- Gideon had seen the Lord face to face and had conversed with Him (Judges 6: 11-24).

- Manoah said to his wife, “We shall surely die, because we have seen God!” (Judges 13: 22). AMEN!
In conclusion, the same God (YAHWEH) who took a body of flesh, by which He ate and spoke face to face to His servants, formerly, is the same one Who came in the New Testament, bearing the name JESUS. JESUS is the name of the Father through which He saves us today.

Remember what He said to Manoah:

« And the Angel of the LORD said to him, “Why do you ask My name, seeing it is wonderful?”

Judges 13:18

His name is wonderful. He is the One Who is called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9: 6). JESUS IS. Amen!
Moreover, Faithful Witness, He who is, He who was and He who is to come, First born from the dead, the Rose of Sharon, the Lily of the valley, the Bright Morning Star, the Alpha and the Omega, the Almighty, Immanuel, Counsellor, Prince of peace, Savior, Powerful God, the lion of the tribe of Judah, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, are titles and descriptions of the only one God (Yahweh).

But “JESUS” is the name by which He is revealed and saves us today (Acts 4:12).

This is the reason why the Bible declares:

“No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him”.

John 1:18

Besides JESUS said:

“All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him”.

Matthew 11:27

Through Jesus-Christ, thousands of people saw God in the New Testament and spoke to him face to face. AMEN!

Yes, God was made visible through Jesus-Christ:

« And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

John 20:28

“Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

John 20:29

Blessed are you if you believe that JESUS IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD. Amen!
He is not a small god beside God the Father. He is not the second Person of the trinity, but He is God (Yahweh) manifested in a body of flesh. Amen!

Do you understand the Holy Scriptures?

“Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves”.

John 14:8-11

“HE WHO HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER”.

HE WHO SEES ME SEES HIM WHO SENT ME

Do you understand the Holy Scriptures?

YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH (JESUS) IS THE ONE TRUE GOD, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, THE LORD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE HEAVENLY FATHER!

AMEN ! AMEN! AMEN!

For more details, I do recommend you to visit the following Web site and to order the booklet entitled “ Understanding the Godhead”.

http://www.inthedaysofthevoice.com

God has already spoken by His Prophet. Please recognize your day and its Message.

"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."

Revelation 3:22

May God bless you!

Bro. Germain

[Caral]

Bro. Germain

As trinitarians we do not support the Arianism view of Jesus as a small god. This a misconception in your understanding.

There is only one God. Yet three distinct persons; but they are all the one God. Each has a will, can speak, can love, etc., and these are demonstrations of personhood. They are in absolute perfect harmony consisting of one substance. They are coeternal, coequal, and copowerful. If any one of the three were removed, there would be no God.*

So let me ask you the question. Is there not heirarchy in the scriptures between Father and Son? did the Father not place all things under the Son feet ( Psalm 8:5-7) And does the Son, then place all things under the Father?

Was it not the Father that called you (Eph 1:4) (John 6:44) the Son that saved and redeemed you (Eph 1:7) (Roms 5:10) and the Holy Spirit that has sealed you (Eph 1:13) (Eph 4:30) ?

Blessings
Caral



*Carm.org

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Brother Anthony Watson said:

“If the Father is a "manifestation" of Christ, then when Christ was on the Cross, who was He talking to when he cried, "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" When Christ was in the garden of Gethsemene, praying to His Father concerning his drinking of the cup, who was He praying to, Himself? …”

Brother Anthony Watson, it is not because God was fully in Jesus-Christ that He could not act any more everywhere.

Indeed, Our Lord fills Heaven and Earth (Jeremiah 23: 24; Isaiah 66: 1; Psalm 139: 7-10).

Moreover, Heaven and the Heaven of Heavens cannot contain God (2 Chronicles 6: 18).

God is omnipresent! Being on the Earth, He spoke from the Heaven:

“You came down also on Mount Sinai, And spoke with them from heaven, And gave them just ordinances and true laws, Good statutes and commandments” (Nehemiah 9: 13).

Moreover, Jesus at the right hand of God does not mean that God and Jesus are two distinct people sat one beside the other(side by side) on a throne in the Heaven, both remaining there for eternity and eternity (Acts 2: 33, 7: 56; Matthew 26: 64; Psalm 110: 1; Hebrews 12: 2).

This wiew is ridiculous and non scriptural. The right hand is a symbolic term which means “CAPACITY AND AUTHORITY”.
Jesus said that All authority has been given to Him in Heaven and on Earth (Matthew 28: 18).

Indeed, when God (Yahweh) became a Man (in Jesus) He achieves all His powerful works thanks to the capacity and the authority of this Man, Jesus (1 Timothy 2: 5).
All authority has been given to Him in Heaven and on Earth.
Consequently, Jesus at the right hand of God means that he is the power of God:
This is the reason why Brother Paul said:
« but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God” (1Corinthians 1: 23-24).

Let us see some examples of the symbolic use of the the phrase: “Right hand”

- « Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, And My right hand has stretched out the heavens; When I call to them, They stand up together”.

Isaiah 48:13

- “I have set the LORD always before me; Because He is at my right hand I shall not be moved”.

Psalm 16:8

-“For He shall stand at the right hand of the poor, To save him from those who condemn him”.

Psalm 109:31

- “If I take the wings of the morning, And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, Even there Your hand shall lead me, And Your right hand shall hold me”.

Psalm 139:9-10

- “My soul follows close behind You; Your right hand upholds me”.

Psalm 63:8

- “For David says concerning Him: I foresaw the LORD always before my face, For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken”.

Acts 2:25

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, in the Heaven, on the Throne, there are not two or three people seated side by side. There is only one person sitting on the Throne. He is Jesus-Christ, the true God and eternal Life (1John 5: 20).

Bro. Germain

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Amen Amen Amen brother Williams!

[Caral]

Bro. Germain,

Previously you said that you follow the Apostles doctrine, unfortunately what you believe is not what the Apostles believed, as we see from their creed.

The Apostles creed.

I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
    the Maker of heaven and earth,
    and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
    born of the virgin Mary,
    suffered under Pontius Pilate,
    was crucified, dead, and buried;
He descended into hell.
The third day He arose again from the dead;
He ascended into heaven,
    and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
    from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost;
    the holy catholic church;
    the communion of saints;
    the forgiveness of sins;
    the resurrection of the body;
    and the life everlasting.