When seeing and attending the confirmation services of Bishops by an organization, I am seeing women who are being ordained as Bishops.  I have read and studied the office of Bishop and have not understood nor found any of the ceremonial ordinations of women as Bishops, nor in God's Word have I found anything on women as Bishops.

 

1 Timothy 3 is the specific chapter speaking on the Office and Qualifications of the Bishop.  Is a Bishop also an Overseer or Superintendent or Elder or Chief Elder? 

 

Now, the Word of God, KJV, states "...If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; one that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Not as a novice [one newly come to the faith], lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil..."  1 Timothy 3:1-7

 

As the head of his household, he is to plan, protect, and provide for his household which includes stewardship as he "ruleth well his own house..." (Titus 1:7).  We are to follow the Shepherd and Bishop of our souls, Jesus Christ (1 Peter 2:25).

 

This scripture, literally, is speaking of a man.  Any thoughts?

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WOW, that was a sad twist of my words! Lets be clear, Samson was a leader in the Lord's Church, but he was rebuked by God for his wild ways. Did Samson just go about doing what he wanted to do? Did God co-sign his errors? Did you forget that God only returned his strength when he repented?

 

I went not only in plain english, but Greek and Hebrew for you concerning Deborah, yet you never even tried to refute the facts presented, let alone acknowledge them to be true! How sad! 

 

If you say there is no correlation between OT Judges and the Bishop, then it is very safe to say that you have never studied the Episcopacy intimately before (which means more than just reading Timothy and Titus), or that you are in complete denial. 

Name the female hight priest.  This is a royal priesthood and not royal Judges.  Today the office of Bishop is not to Judge.  Christ came not to judge the world...  No correlation.  You fail again.

Thats a very bad attempt to prove your point. The Priesthood is now for all believers (Priesthood after the order of King Melchezidec, not just for one set of people (male Levites).

 

Again I say, you never even studied the Episcopacy before, have you? Had you actually studied it, instead of thinking you can talk on it, you would know that the Bishop does in deed have the authority to judge. Have you ignored Paul's words in 1st Corinthians chapters 5-7? Have you ignored the fact that he judged, and spoke of their authority to judge?

 

So I haven't even failed yet. I am STILL waiting for you to stop being rude and respond to the evidence that I gave concerning Deborah and the Hebrew word that described her as a judge.

Not to judge as being responsible for one's punishment.  You stilll have not established any female high priest in the OT.  In the NT Christ is the high priest.  You use Deborah who was not a bishop or hight priest to make your point for ordaining a women to the office of high priest.  You disregard 1 Timoth 3.  You have made your own doctrine. 

Slow down there....SINCE WHEN WAS THE BISHOP EVER CONSIDERED A HIGH PRIEST???? Now YOU'RE the one making things up!!

 

Also, the role of judge in the OT and NT had the same power to pronounce judgment, though OT an NT judgments were different. Again, you didn't study 1st Corinthians chapters 5-7, so you missed this....

Exactly.  The OT Judges were not bishops they were judges.  Everyone today is not a high priest.  Jesus is our hight priest.  There are no female bishops mentioned in scriptures so lets not make Deborah into something that she was not.

The OT Judge responsibilites are not the same as someone who judges in the NT.  We are in the dispensation of Grace.  Christ did not come to judge and render punishment.

Lets be real about this one: you really don't know what a Bishop is, do you? You just sat here and twisted everything around even to the point of trying to call a Bishop a High Priest. You also NEVER answered anything about what I said concerning Deborah before. So lets face it and say you don't know. Its just that simple.

 

And its STILL plain and simple that you haven't read the Scriptures. I'll even bet that you never once even considered turning to 1st Corinthians at all this whole time, did you? Why not turn there right now and see what I mean, then quote it for us? 

I don't think you know what a biblical bishop is or you would not have ordained your wife.  Who ordained you?  I think you are playing church.  Let's be real.  You have given your best definition of a bishop and you believe that Deborah is a bishop.  Where you a child preacher?

2 Timothy 4:22, "The Lord Jesus Christ [be] with thy spirit. Grace [be] with you. Amen.  [[[The following was added by editors of the KJV: The second [epistle] unto Timotheus, ordained the first bishop of the church of the Ephesians, was written from Rome, when Paul was brought before Nero the second time.]]]"

 

Titus 3:15, "All that are with me salute thee. Greet them that love us in the faith. Grace [be] with you all. Amen.  [[[The following was added by editors of the KJV: It was written to Titus, ordained the first bishop of the church of the Cretians, from Nicopolis of Macedonia.]]]"

 

Brother Watson,

 

Pleas name a female bishop in the bible and not Judge Deborah who was a Judge. 

I want to thank God for this discussion, and also those who share great wisdon in this issue.

Before I can say something in this issue, can somebody please answer these two questions for me; and I think the questions will be of help to all of us to rightly digest this matter.

(1) Who is a bishop?
(2) what is the office of a bishop in the church?
(3) Is there difference between a bishop and an apostle?

Loking foward to hearing from somebody soonest.
Jerry.

Lovitha Shelton, I'm sorry, but your "studies" on the Episcopacy seemed to be only on two verses,, and not the history of the Episcopacy itself. I have stressed this before, and I will continue to stress this: Church History is a vital part of Church doctrine. People neglect it, but they do so hypocritically. The Book of Acts is the "firstfruit of Church History". The Apostle Paul stated in Romans that if the first fruit be holy, then the lump be holy just as well. Therefore, Church History is an extension and continuation of the Book of Acts, to see how God operated throughout the 2,000 years of the Lord's Church since the time of Christ.

 

Within those 2,000 years, plenty of women have been sanctioned by the decree of the Father and the guidance of the all-Holy Ghost to be ordained to the office of the Bishop. Apostle Junia was a leader in the Lord's Church, and Deborah the Prophetess was an Old Testament type of the NT Bishop. These things and more should not be ignored, but should bring light to where two misunderstood verses from Apostle Paul have caused much concern. How can you build a doctrine off of just those two verses anyway? 

Man has a history of disobeying the word (plan) of God.  History does not justify, qualify nor give excuse for you to act a certain way which is contrary to the word (plan) of God.

Just because everybody else is doing it does not make it right for you to do.  Many of the customs that man has adopted and lives by today are contrary to the will of God for our lives.   

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