It is coming soon!

[Mark H. Stevens, Th.D]

Many of us have been fervently praying that God would turn the church upside down and vigorously shake it (Heb 12:25-29). When this happens, those who love money and have lost their grip on the truth will be the first to fall.

[Mark H. Stevens, Th.D]

1 Cor 4:8-21 (NIV) Already you have all you want! Already you have become rich! You have become kings--and that without us! How I wish you really had become kings so that we might be kings with you!.. We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are honored, we are dishonored! To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless... Up to this moment we have become the scum of the earth, the refuse of the world. I am not writing this to shame you, but to warn you, as my dear children... I will come to you very soon, if the Lord is willing, and then I will find out not only how these arrogant people are talking, but what power they have. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power. What do you prefer? Shall I come to you with punishment, or in love and with a gentle spirit?

James 5:1-3,5 (TEB) And now, you rich people [see James 2:2-7], listen to me! Weep and wail over the miseries that are coming upon you! Your riches have rotted away, and your clothes have been eaten by moths. Your gold and silver are covered with rust, and this rust will be a witness against you, and eat up your flesh like fire. You have piled up riches in these last days... Your life here on earth has been full of luxury and pleasure. You have made yourselves fat for the day of slaughter.

Jer 5:27-29 (NIV) ..."They have become rich and powerful and have grown fat and sleek... they do not plead the case of the fatherless to win it, they do not defend the rights of the poor. Should I not punish them for this?" declares the Lord.


Advice on Security Investing
1 Tim 6:17-19 (Phi) Tell those who are rich in this present world not to be contemptuous of others, and not to rest the weight of their confidence on the transitory power of wealth but on the living God, who generously gives us everything for our enjoyment. Tell them to do good, to be rich in kindly actions, to be ready to give to others and to sympathize with those in distress. Their security should be invested in the life to come, so that they may be sure of holding a share in the life which is real and permanent.

Luke 12:29-34 (Phi) "You must not set your heart on what you eat or drink, nor must you live in a state of anxiety. The whole heathen world is busy about getting food and drink, and your Father knows well enough that you need such things. No, set your heart on his kingdom, and your food and drink will come as a matter of course... Sell your possessions and give the money away to those in need. Get yourselves purses that never grow old, inexhaustible treasure in Heaven, where no thief can ever reach it, or moth destroy it. For where your treasure is, you may be certain that your heart will be there too!"

1 Tim 6:8-10 (Phi) Surely then, as far as physical things are concerned, it is sufficient for us to keep our bodies fed and clothed. For men who set their hearts on being wealthy expose themselves to temptation. They fall into a trap and lay themselves open to all sorts of silly and wicked desires, which are quite capable of utterly ruining and destroying their souls. For loving money leads to all kinds of evil, and some men in the struggle to be rich have lost their faith and caused themselves untold agonies of mind.

Jer 9:23-24 (NAS) Thus says the Lord, "Let not a wise man boast of his wisdom... let not a rich man boast of his riches, but let him who boasts boast about this, that he understands and knows Me... "


Now You Know...
1 Jn 3:16-18 (Phi) We know what love is because Christ laid down his life for us. We must in turn lay down our lives for our brothers. But as for the well-to-do man who sees his brother in want but shuts his heart against him, how could anyone believe that the love of God lives in him? My Children, let us love not merely in theory or in words--let us love in sincerity and in practice! (2 Cor 8:9)

Luke 12:47-48 (NIV) "That servant who knows his master's will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."

Prov 28:20 (NIV) The faithful man will be richly blessed, but one eager to get rich will not go unpunished.

Rev 3:17-19 (Phi) [Jesus] "While you say, 'I am rich, I have prospered, and there is nothing that I need,' you have no eyes to see that you are wretched, pitiable, poverty-stricken, blind and naked. My advice to you is to buy from me that gold which is refined in the furnace so that you may be rich, and white garments to wear so that you may hide the shame of your nakedness, and salve to put on your eyes to make you see. All those whom I love I correct and discipline. Therefore, shake off your complacency and repent."

[Mark H. Stevens, Th.D]

A.W. Tozer: "Never Own Anything--Get Rid Of The Sense Of Possessing!"
Luke 14:33 (Phi) "Only the man who says goodbye to all his possessions can be my disciple."

Luke 14:33 (TEB) Concluded Jesus, "none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up everything he has."

Luke 14:33 (RSV) "Whoever of you does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple."

Luke 3:11 (NIV) John answered, "The man with two tunics should share with him who has none, and the one who has food should do the same."

Luke 6:30 (Jer) "Give to everyone who asks you, and do not ask for your property back from the man who robs you."

[Mark H. Stevens, Th.D]

Mark 10:21-27,31 (Jer) Jesus looked steadily at him and loved him, and he said, "There is one thing you lack. Go and sell everything you own and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me." But his face fell at these words and he went away sad, for he was a man of great wealth. Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, "How hard it is for those who have riches to enter the kingdom of God!" The disciples were astounded by these words, but Jesus insisted, "My children," he said to them, "how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God! It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." They were more astonished than ever. "In that case," they said to one another, "who can be saved?" Jesus gazed at them. "For men," he said, "it is impossible, but not for God: because everything is possible for God... Many who are first will be last, and the last first."


Is it likely, with all of his contacts and experience, that this man would have remained poor for long? And yet he was unwilling to obey Christ with all these advantages, even temporarily.

[Mark H. Stevens, Th.D]

Mat 6:24 (NIV) "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."

Luke 12:33 (NIV) "Sell your possessions and give to the poor... "

[Mark H. Stevens, Th.D]

Well think the stuff comes out of Creflo Dollar, Kenneth Copeland, and Leroy Thompson IS heresy....yeah I said it!

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

LOL!!!! Bro Watson, you need professional help my friend!! HAHAHAHAH

[Evangelist Altha Fugett]

I do like Creflo Dollar, and I have heard him teach things other than money. I have yet to sow a seed in his ministry, so I do not feel like I'm brainwashed.(sarcastically) Rather, I do as the scriptures say, I sow seeds in ministries that need help. That understanding of you reap what you sow, has prospered my life.

I don't particular care for a Bentley, my convertible is more my speed, I'm working on that jet however, either of them would be just a means of transportation, some of you holy than thous like walking?, more power to you. One man's rags is another's riches.

But it was my prayer to the Lord to bless me to be a blessing to others, in a sense, I prayed for prosperity, and God answers prayers

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

Ya know, I seen a lot of scriptures placed out there, but that actually didn't answer my question. The question was (and I quote):

"I would like the both of you to define the doctrine that you call a Heresy. No more opinions from ANYONE, because they never had a place in it, just the facts from the Bible, complete with scripture references."

In other words, please EXPLAIN why teaching about Prosperity is a heresy, and use scriptures to back up your words, not list scriptures and ask me to play connect the dots. Doing that is miss leading. Do any of you go up to a pulpit, or enter a classroom and just spit out scriptures without any explanation?

[Chaplain Pat Harris]

I'm only jumping in here to reiterate what Bro. Greene just asked. Too often when a question is posted, some people will respond with 10 to 20 scriptures and the question never gets answered. Sis. Fugett, I seem to recall one of your blogs addressing this very thing. It drives me NUTS! :-) I hate to ask a question because I'm likely to get a book report instead!

[HOPE - Psalm 43:5]

I have often wondered when those who promote poverty as piety why they haven't... "sold all and gave to the poor" as a personal offering to the Lord and to prove that they don't worship money and material things.

Those who say such things should actually practice what they preached. Their lifestyles betray them and are testisfy of their hypocrisy of what they say they believe about Christianity.

I've also wondered why they don't mention the riches of Solomon and the wealth of Abraham.... did those two sell all they had and gave all the poor.

OR could it be that Believers could do much more from a place of prosperity than they could from a position of destitution and empoverishment.

I'm not saying that you can't be effective and useful to the Lord if you are poor, but I am wondering why we are expect to aspire to poverty to prove our devotion to the Lord?

Lastly, prosperity... does it only deal with money and material things or does it cover physical, mental and emotional health and well being?

can I share just one word with you..... SHALOM

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

You know whats interesting? A good study of Church History shows you that this aged old drama goes waaaaaay back to the days of the beginning of the Monks and other Ministers of the Gospel vs the Bishops of the Church of Rome, the Church of Constantinople, the Church of Antioch, ect. Interestingly enough, a particular sect of those who took up the "vow of poverty" left that vow for a simple reason: in order to preach the Gospel to the places they wanted to go to, and feed the poor that they wanted to reach, they found out that they needed the prosperity that they rejected for the Gospel's sake!

Ironic, huh?

Money is not a bad thing. Having alot of it isn't even bad!! Letting it rule you is, and this doctrine stems from those who taught that one was holy only when they took up "a vow of poverty".

[newview]

>"...Mother Teresa did more than Cashflow Dollar will ever do, and she did with hardly nothing..."

Amen!

Mother Teresa's feet were deformed as a result of her selflessness.
She would wait until everyone else had selected the donated shoes giving them the best selection and leaving herself with the ill fitting ones.

Thats beauty. True beauty. She did exactly what the women in the church are called to do.