Would You As Pastor allow Homosexuals To Frolic In Your Church?

[Andy C Wuhraizer]

Vermont has just okayed what they call "same sex mariages". It is very sad that we humans who are supposed to be the most intelligent creatures on earth, dont even understand or appreciate the sacred purpose of marriage. The reason why God instituted marriage is for reproduction, plus nothing, minus nothing. The sole reason why we are created male and female, or exibit some form of sexuality is to reproduce. If we didnt have to reproduce after our kind, we wont have any devices for sex. Angels dont reproduce and as such are sexless beings. Everything else God put on earth comes in pairs of male and female. Even birds know this. Have you ever gone bird-watching and seen two male birds weaving a nest and trying to raise a family?
You dont have to be a rocket scientist in order to understand that another man's behind was neither designed by God nor evolution for sex. The anus is not a sexul organ, period. So that if you want to use a body feature designed to accomplish one task for a completely senseless one then there is something wrong with your perception. You are like the man who sees a deer and calls it an elephant. Something is wrong upstairs!! What is the purpose of a so called same sex marriage. Sexual pleasure so they speak. But pleasure is not the purpose for sex.The pleasure part is secondary. God made sex pleasurable, why? Because if it had felt like surgery, you would have to hold a gun to your partner's head to have children. Homosexuals have taken the "purpose" out and are going gang-ho after the "pleasure".WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT PLEASURE-SEEKING IN THE LAST DAYS?
As A pastor the only way I would allow a homosexual in my congregation if they understand that homosexuality, just all other deviations , is wrong and they came to church to seek help like all of us do. But if a homosexual shows up in church all cocky and full of gay pride and trying to peddle his ware in the church, I will chase him out with a baseball bat!!! lol!
You just said "wow, he hates homosexuals!", right? Wrong. As a pastor you cant hate anybody because of their sin.It will be like a Doctor hating a patient because the latter has a form of cancer the Doctor dreads.But if the patient tells the Doc, "Leave my cancer a lone. I was born with it, and I am proud of it." Well, then get out of the hospital! I dont hate homosexuals, I hate homosexuality. You dont hate the sinner, you hate the sin. You have to hate the sin enough to be able to help the sinner. On the other hand if you love the sin, you yourself might just get caught up in it.I consider it a disgrace to the human race that we allow behavior that even some animals shy away from.

[T.L. Hawkins]

I have a question for whomever would like to answer.
Can a gay/lesbian be saved?

[Adrian Lamar West Sr.]

If they are truly repentant, they shall be as all others

[T.L. Hawkins]

I believe that as well. So, whomever was or is gay, has a chance to go to HEAVEN ...IF they confess their sins and SINCERELY Repent? Not to stop there, but to have a TRUE relationship with God to prevent sinking back into that sin.

[John]

Of course they can Sister Tarmeque! There is only ONE SIN unpardonable and that is the blaspheme against the Holy Ghost. One must repent and admit you are a sinner, believe on/in Jesus Christ (free gift from God) that He is the Son of God and came to cleanse us of our sins with the shedding of His blood. Died for us, went to Abraham's Bossom and preached to those in hell because they didn't know Him, arose the third day and seen of all His Apostles then ascended to heaven and sits on the right hand of God and intercesses for us every day. It is God's grace and mercy, that free gift we have eternal salvation and life.

[T.L. Hawkins]

Thank you Sir! My whole reason for being on THIS discussion is to say...WHO ARE WE to judge?
WHO ARE WE to say who HAS or HAS NOT sincerely confessed and repented their sins, homosexual and any other, unto God. However, I DO NOT AGREE that homosexuals, fornicators, adulterers (and any other sinners) should be allowed to "frolic" in the church. WE need to STOP patting sin on the back as if it's a child that has a scratch on his knee and we're saying "that's okayyyy...it's alright". NO it's NOT alright!

YES, we ALL fall short and sin. To continue to live a "sinful" lifestyle is not right. What I mean is sinning, knowing you're sinning, knowing better, read it in the word, but CHOOSING to continue to live in THAT sin with the mentality that you will be forgiven over and over. Taking God's grace and mercy for granted!

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

No, a homosexual cannot be saved at all. I say that because if a person repents by its original and true definition, then they are NO LONGER a homosexual. You cannot place the title of a sinner and a saved person/saint together. If you could do that, then you are the first to perfectly mix oil and water!
The familiar saying of "I'm a sinner saved by grace" is literally impossible, for "old things have PASSED AWAY". Therefore, you cannot be called by the old nature at all.

[Adrian Lamar West Sr.]

aLL SINS SHALL BE FORGIVEN A MAN SAVE ONE, BLASPHEMY OF THE HOLY GHOST...

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

True, but that has little to nothing to do with what I meant sir. You cannot call yourself a "sinner" and a saint at the same time. It is simply impossible.

[John]

When one repents then they no longer live the homosexual lifestyle and if they do then they haven't repented.

[T.L. Hawkins]

What I mean is: Can a homosexual be saved and brought out from that lifestyle NEVER to return, not be saved and CONTINUE to be a homosexual.

[John]

Tarmeque, being a homosexual is not worst than doing what we were doing in the streets. If we never repented and gave ourselves to the Lord we would still be lost and doing our own thing. The same for anyone no matter what sin they are in, if they truly repent and give themselves to the Lord, He will forgive them because He is a just God, a loving God and they will be saved. Now can one backslide, of course and we sometimes do espcecially when we are baby Christians but we have to pray for His strength, courage and discipline to overcome that fleshly feeling. I backslide into drugs and the money in the streets until my spirit was stronger than my flesh and glory to God I never even think about it for myself. I can talk to those in that life and never even have that desire. IF we let go and let God and as Rev Luckett says just get out of the way and let God's Spirit go to work everything will be alright. May God's love, peace and blessings continue to shine on you.

[Andy C Wuhraizer]

Yes, gay and lesbian can be saved just like the thief, the murderer, the fornicator, the drunkard, the child molestor, the one who had sex with a dog, name any sin, they can be saved on one condition: that they realised they are sinners and need forgiveness and cleansing. Homosexuals and lesbians are the only category of sinners who have openly declared, "our sin is right! We love it and are born with it so accept or we will use every arsenal in our power to make the earthly rulers declare you evfil on our behalf." This is what is happening. The devil knew he wont succeed until he puts his followers in the church. He recruited homosexuals slipped them into the church and gradually brought them at the helm of affairs. There are people who did not buy into the homosexual/lesbian agenda just a few years ago, who today would kill for that agenda becos a certain poof by the name of Robinson has been elected Bishop. So the warped thinking is that, if the church can elect a poof bishop, then homosexuality is devine and right. My former in law's daugther who converted to lesbianism told me" we same sex people have prove the Lord Jesus himself was a ...may God curse me if i repeat the word..The bible is clear you are wrong arrogant, demonized, insane and heading for hell. Enjoy your poop!