The Trinity is Bibical

[Rev. Derek Joshua E'Lon]

Is The Trinity Biblical?
From the Christian Research Institute
www.equip.org
The Trinity is a basic doctrine of orthodox Christianity. Yet the word "Trinity" is not found anywhere in the Bible. Is the doctrine of the Trinity really biblical?
The doctrine of the Trinity says that there is one All Mighty One (God) who exists eternally as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I can assure you that the elements of this doctrine are all taken directly from the Bible.
The first plank of the Trinitarian platform is that there is only one All Mighty One (God). The Bible could not be more explicit on this point, which it states explicitly about two dozen times. In Isaiah 44:8 Yahweh (The LORD) says that even He does not know of any other (mighty ones)gods!
Yahshua (Jesus) often spoke of the All Mighty One (God) as His Father, and the apostles frequently spoke of "the Almighty One (God) the Father." But the New Testament also insists that Yahshua (Jesus) is The Almighty One (God). For example, Thomas acknowledged Yahshua (Jesus) as, "My Lord(master) and my Almighty One (God)" (John 20:28), and both Peter and Paul spoke of Yahshua (Jesus) as "our All Mighty One (God) and Savior" (2 Pet. 1:1; Tit. 2:13). Yet the New Testament also makes the distinction between the Father and the Son as two very different persons. In fact they tell us that they love one another, speak to each other, and seek to glorify each other (e.g., John 17: 1-26).
The Old Testament refers often to the Holy Spirit as The Almighty One (God) at work in the world, without distinction from the Father. But Yahshua (Jesus) in John 14 to 16 explained that this Holy Spirit would be sent by the Father at the Messiah’s (Christ's) request. The Holy Spirit would teach and guide the disciples, not speaking on His own initiative, but speaking on the Messiah’s 9Christ's) behalf and glorifying The messiah (Christ). Thus, the Holy Spirit is revealed by The Messiah (Christ) to be a third person distinct from the Father and distinct from the Son.
In short, the doctrine of the Trinity is completely and totally biblical, and it is essential that all the Followers of the Messiah Yahshua (Christians) give assent to this doctrine.

[Della Morton]

Q: It seems from your writings that you place a high premium on a Chalcedonian understanding of Christ (which states that there is a vital union between Christ's complete divine and human natures, resulting in one whole, unfragmented person), and explain the Oneness of God from this perspective. Why is this?



A: Yes, a Chalcedonian Christology is central to my theology, as it should be to anyone’s as far as I am concerned. Only a Chalcedonian understanding of Christ, coupled with a proper understanding of the limitation of the exercising of Christ's deity (Phil 2:5-11) can explain the Biblical presentation of Jesus Christ as being fully God and a genuine human being simultaneously from conception, and His inferiority to the Father, all the while maintaining Biblical monotheism. All other attempts at explaining the Biblical data are doomed to failure.

That this is true has become very evident to me over the last few months. I have been reading Trinitarian explanations of the Biblical distinctions between the Father and Son (where most of the distinctions lie), and have been outright amazed at how close they border on Tritheism. I do not see how one can understand the distinctions as being in the Godhead instead of between deity and humanity, and still maintain Biblical monotheism. One of their favorite proofs of the Trinity, as you might attest, is how the Scripture says that the Father and Son love one another. How can God the Father love God the Son and God the Holy Ghost, and yet there be one God? To love another requires a distinct consciousness. Are we led to believe that God has three distinct consciousness and three distinct personalities? This is a schizophrenic God as far as I am concerned. If we were to say a human has three personalities, we either label him an actor or mentally-ill. Trinitarians spend so much time trying to figure out how the Persons can be differentiated from one another, and have to rely on the "unbegotten, begotten, and proceeding" thing to do so, whatever all that means (they really aren’t even sure). All they have to do is see that the distinction arises out of the genuine human existence that God assumed. It simplifies the whole matter. It takes out the problems of Jesus’ inferiority to the Father if He is homoousios with Him We do not have to resort to an eternal Son who is only functionally subordinate to the Father. Functionally subordinate or not, if the Son is praying to the Father, and we understand this as one Person of the Godhead praying to another Person of the Godhead, we have got problems. How does a divine Person, in His deity, become functionally subordinate to another Person in the Godhead, and still be God, and still be one? To me this is borderline, if not outright Tritheism. It seems clear to me that Trinitarians always have a harder time explaining difficult passages than do Oneness believers, because the conclusions they are forced to come up with are harder to maintain consistent with monotheism. Even as a Trinitarian professor once confessed, Trinitarians can never speak of God as Trinity in the same breath. They have to either speak of His oneness, or His threeness, but can never do so in the same thought.

If you are aware of your history, the early Trinitarians were not orthodox, and did not believe Jesus to be fully divine, which is closer to Adoptionism than Modalism. They would verbally confess it, but then they would back-lash and say otherwise. This is abundantly evident by the fact that they could say that the Logos could suffer, but the Father could not. According to Greek philosophy, which is the framework within which they were working, God could not suffer because He was the Ineffable One. If they truly believed Jesus to be homoousios with the Father, then God the Son could not suffer either, yet this is what they would confess. They made Jesus out to be an Arian deity, while still trying to maintain coequality, although some denied this altogether.

So yes, I do see a Chalcedonian understanding as very essential to Oneness theology.

[Della Morton]

Question:

Greetings in our Lord Jesus Christ. I am a (former?) Trinitarian who is struggling with the Oneness doctrine. The only thing that keeps me from fully accepting Oneness at this point is Christology. I have read many works, and all seem to be either Apollinarian or Nestorian, neither of which I can accept. Imagine, then, my joy when I found you defending- of all things- a Chalcedonian Christology on apostolicnet! I was ecstatic at first to find you putting a voice to my very objections to other oneness authors in your article "Jesus' Prayers" and "The dual nature of Christ," but my heart sank when I found nothing which properly explained these things against a Trinitarian argument. I am beginning to suspect that, since Christianity is unique in that our theology must originate (and does, historically) from a Christology, Chalcedonian Christology is necessarilly Trinitarian, while Oneness must be Nestorian. Yet help me understand your position!

Trinitarian Chalcedonians have it easy, for Christ never prays to God the Son, who (according to their theology) was incarnate, while in Oneness he actually prays to the very person who is incarnate within him. The concept of indwelling seems to solve this, recognizing that persons, not natures, pray, but as you say, it in fact produces two prsons. You say in your article on the subject that the union was in fact that "the word became flesh" rather than indwelled flesh, and that "Jesus and the father are functionally distinct, which accounts for the differences we read about in the NT." But then how can "God manifested in flesh" still pray to "God as Spirit" without making a mere show of prayer?

It sounds like what you propose is Sabellian in the sense that it suggests as successive revelations or modes of God. Yet this still wouldn't solve the problem of how Jesus could pray to the father, yet be the name of the F, S, and H G, for successive revelations obviously cannot pray to one another.

Furthermore, if the word became flesh, rather than indwelled flesh, what of the classic Oneness statement that "the Father reveals himself in the Son?" and that "in him dwelled all the fullness bodily?"





Answer:

Thank you for your email. I hope that I can be of help to you. To find a Christology that keeps Christ as one person, both fully God and fully man, I do not believe that we must resort to Trinitarianism. In fact, I think Trinitarianism is very shallow at this point.

You shared your concern that you are being led to believe that one must be Trinitarian to have a Chalcedonian understanding, and the Oneness understanding is necessarily Nestorian. That one need not have a Nestorian view of Christ to have a Oneness Christology is evident from myself. I am a thoroughgoing Oneness believer, placing no distinctions of personality in the Godhead, and yet I can hold to a Chalcedonian Christology that unites Christ's two natures into one inseparable person. What makes my understanding opposed to the T understanding is that they say the second Person became a man, while Oneness believers maintain that the uni-personal God, the Father, became a man, known to us as Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

I do not believe it really matters if one is Oneness or Trinitarian when it comes to whether or not they confess a Nestorian understanding of Christ, or a Chalcedonian understanding. Nestorius (or at least those who follow the doctrine of Nestorianism in his day) confessed the Trinity, yet His understanding of Christ was lacking.

Just as an overview here, I want to boil down the real differences between Oneness and Trinity, for this is the major difference in our Christology. The fundamental difference between the Oneness concept of God, and the Trinitarian concept is where the Biblical distinctions are placed. Trinitarians place an eternal distinction in person-hood between the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Oneness maintains that there is no distinction of personality in the Godhead. The Scripture never distinguishes between the deity of the Son and the deity of the Father, but all distinctions are between God as He exists omnipresent and transcendent, and God as He exists as a genuine human being. The distinction is not in the Godhead, but in the humanity of Jesus Christ. There is a three-fold revelation of God to man, but not a tripersonality in the Godhead.

Oneness believers and Trinitarians are similar in that 1. both believe in one God; 2. both believe that the Father, Son, and Spirit are God; 3. both confess that the Scripture makes a distinction between the Father, Son, and Spirit; 4. both believe that the Son of God died on the cross, and not the Father; both believe that Jesus was praying to the Father, and not to Himself.

Oneness (O) believers and Trinitarians (T) differ in that 1. T believe that the one God consists of three eternal persons while O believes that the one God is one person; 2. T believe that the second person of the Trinity became incarnated while O believes that the Father, who is one person, became incarnated as the Son of God; 3. T believe that the Son is eternal while O believes that the Son did not exist until the incarnation, because the term refers to God as He exists as a man, and not as He exists in His essential deity; 4. T sees the Biblical distinctions between the Father and the Son to be a distinction in both personality and flesh while O believes that all distinctions are a result of the relationship of the Spirit of God to the incarnate God-man.

As it pertains to Christology, then, the difference between Trinitarians (T) and Oneness (O) believers is that they say it was the second person of the Trinity, not the Father, who became man, while we maintain that the one God, known as the Father, became man. Jesus' testimony that the Father was in Him (John 10:38; 14:10-11; 17:21), and that those who saw Him saw the Father (John 14:7-11). Jesus is the express image of the Father's person (Hebrew 1:3). Trinitarians have a hard time explaining these verses because they maintain that the second person became flesh. If that is the case, and the Father is not embodied, why did Jesus always say the Father was in Him, and never say the second person was in Him? This is the only difference between O Christology and T Christology. Other than this difference, I am in complete agreement with the Chalcedonian definition.

I agree with you that every theology proper must grow out of a particular Christology. The Greek Apologists, particularly Justin, used their understanding of the Logos, and ran with it. This led them to propose distinct beings in the Godhead, even saying that the Logos was created, as did the Arians after them. The understanding was refined over the next 150 years, but ultimately the creeds of 325 and 381 developed the Trinitarian understanding from their understanding of Christ. Although this is true, it is also equally true that their understanding of the Trinity shaped their understanding of Christology. There was much confusion as to the nature of Christ, which was not settled until Chalcedon. If the early church's Christology was so central to the doctrine of the Trinity, Chalcedon should have preceded the other two great councils. That it did not, and looking at the heated battles that ensued from 381 to 451, makes it evident that there was no uniform Christology that did, nor could instruct the development of the Trinity. We must confess that both grew together to some extent. The doctrine of the Trinity, however, was much more dependent on Greek philosophy for its development, while Christology was based much more on the testimony of Scripture. The Trinity, although it used Scriptures for support, grew out of the Greek understanding of the impassability and immutability of God, mixed with the doctrine of the logos. The understanding of Christ's person, although informed by Greek philosophical concepts, was much more dependent on the Biblical data for its development and exposition.

Concerning your comment that the incarnation seems to makes two persons, I would say that it does not. What it does do is give God a new existence that He never experienced before. In the incarnation, when God became a man, He did not cease existing as Spirit only which is omnipresent. Even T must confess that God the Son did not cease to be omnipresent when being incarnated. If God the Son could be omnipresent as Spirit, and limited in the incarnation simultaneously, without being two persons, why can't the Father become a man, and yet still exist beyond the incarnation, and not be two persons? This isn't a hard concept to grapple with. You pointed out that the O difficulty arises in explaining why, if the God in Jesus is the Father, does Jesus pray to the Father. If Jesus is the Father, why pray to the Father? I believe the answer has to do with the kenosis (Philippians 2:6-11), when God willingly set aside the exercise of the divine prerogatives to take up a human existence, operating within the confines of an ordinary man. The deity of the Father was in Jesus, but latent in Him. In the incarnation, Jesus is distinct from the Father, not in His deity, but in His humanity. In the incarnation, Jesus must be spoken of as being distinct from the Father, because the Father is God beyond a human existence, while Jesus is God in a human existence.

You then asked, "But then how can 'God manifested in flesh' still pray to 'God as Spirit without making a mere show of prayer?" I don't claim to have a perfect answer, as nobody would, including Trinitarians. They need to wrestle with the reason God the Son would pray to God the Father if both are co-equal. What need does God the Son have of prayer? One only prays to their superior, and one they need dependence on. Trinitarians answer this by claiming a functional subordination in the incarnation. I agree with such an explanation. Jesus, because He was a man, needed to pray. It was not deity praying to deity, but the Son of God, a genuine human being, praying to God as He exists outside of a human existence. Although this is difficult for us to comprehend, it must be understood in light of God's kenosis (Philippians 2:6-11). God willing limited the exercise of His divine abilities in order to experience all that we experience as limited human beings. In this capacity, although ontologically Jesus was God, functionally He was a man dependent on the Holy Spirit.

I do not advocate Sabellianism in the least sense. There are no successive revelations of God, and neither is Jesus Christ only a temporary existence of God. The incarnation is permanent. Jesus, in His flesh, is in heaven right now right alongside of the Father. You are right in pointing out the error of Sabellianism. Successive modes could not pray to one another.

[Della Morton]

Question:

I have question about one of the articles that you have posted on the Apostolic.net website.

I am a former Trinitarian trying to form a biblically accurate Christology in light of the Oneness position. I agree that the Bible teaches the numerical Oneness of God and that Jesus is God revealed in the flesh. My struggle lies in the area of the Father and Son. I am hoping that you can help me to better understand this concept and to clarify a comment you made in your article titled: A Trinitarian's Struggle With the Oneness Doctrine

In the very last paragraph you wrote:

"I do not advocate Sabellianism in the least sense. There are no successive revelations of God, and neither is Jesus Christ only a temporary existence of God. The incarnation is permanent. Jesus, in His flesh, is in heaven right now right alongside of the Father. You are right in pointing out the error of Sabellianism. Successive modes could not pray to one another."

Can you please elaborate on the sentence I have underlined? Unless I am misunderstanding you, this seems to contradict a basic Oneness concept that in heaven we will see only one entity or person, namely the Lord Jesus Christ.

I look forward to your reply and want to thank you for the excellent work you have done. Your articles have been such a blessing to me and have answered so many of the questions I have struggled with in trying to teach others about the Lord Jesus and who the Bible declares Him to be.



Answer:

I'm glad our articles have been a blessing to you in your pursuit for understanding.

Let me try to clear up any misunderstanding my statement has caused. First, let me make it clear that oneness theology does not maintain a "Jesus Only" view of God, wherein any distinction (which is different than separation) between the Father and Son is denied. Truly oneness theology confesses a distinction. This is not the same as Trinitarianism, however. Trinitarianism teaches three eternal persons within the one essence of the Godhead. Oneness theology, however, sees God as uni-personal. We do not see any personal distinctions within God's essence, and admit a personal distinction only between the Father and Son, not between the Father, Son, and Spirit. Secondly, the Oneness understanding of the personal distinction between Father and Son is not an eternal distinction of persons prior to the incarnation. Oneness theology understands the personal distinction as arising only after the incarnation when the one uni-personal God, YHWH, Himself became a man, acquiring a genuine human existence/consciousness. So whereas the Trinitarian distinction is eternal and unrelated to the incarnation, in Oneness theology the distinction is temporal and exclusively bound up in the incarnation.

Oneness theology recognizes that when God took to Himself a human identity/existence, a distinction arose. Such a distinction is not a distinction between divine persons in the Godhead (Trinitarianism), but between God's existence apart from the incarnation and God's existence in the incarnation (Oneness theology). When God became a man, He did not cease being God. When God became incarnated in a human existence, God did not cease to inhabit the heavens. God now exists both in the incarnation as a genuine human being, and yet continues to exist beyond the incarnation. Biblically this distinction is maintained by the Father/Son distinction. As God exists apart from and beyond the incarnation He is referred to as "Father." As God exists in the incarnation He is referred to as "Son" or "Jesus Christ." This does not make two persons in the Godhead, but makes a distinction between the one uni-personal (as opposed to tri-personal as in Trinitarian thought) God's existence apart from the incarnation and in the incarnation with a genuine human existence. To reiterate, the distinction between the Father and Son is a distinction that arose in the incarnation because of the addition of humanity to God's previously unmitigated existence as exclusive Spirit.

Having set forth the above, the point I was trying to make by saying that Jesus is alongside the Father in heaven right now is to stress that God continues to exist in two ways (in the incarnation, and apart from the incarnation), and will continue to exist this way for eternity. This is not to say that we are going to see the Father and see Jesus in heaven. The Bible is clear that no man can see God (John 1:18; I Timothy 6:16; I John 4:12), which means we cannot see God in His essence. Jesus, however, is the image of the invisible God (II Corinthians 4:4; Colossians 1:15; Hebrews 1:3). He is God's essence made visible to man. Jesus is the only God we will ever see. He is the one who is on the throne (Revelation 22:3).

Paul said Jesus "is the image of the invisible God" (Colossians 1:15). The Greek word translated "image" is eikon, referring to a representation of something, and denoting the manifestation of a substance. Notice that Paul contrasted Jesus' image to that of the invisible God. The point Paul was trying to get across to his readers was that Jesus is the visible representation of God to man. That is why Jesus could say, "he that has seen Me has seen the Father" (John 14:9; also 12:45).

The author of Hebrews said Jesus is the "express image of his [God's] person" (1:3). "Express image" is from the Greek word charakter, meaning to impress upon, or stamp. It denotes an engravement from a tool, which impresses an image into that which is being engraved. This impression, then, is a characteristic of the instrument used to do produce it. What is produced corresponds precisely with the instrument.

The Greek word translated "person" is hypostasis. Although rendered as "person," it is more properly understood as essence of being, or the substance of a thing. Jesus, therefore, is not just a representation of God, but is the very visible impression of God's invisible substance and essence. He is God's very nature expressed in humanity. To say it another way, He is the corresponding engravement of God's essence of being, in human form.

Having affirmed that Jesus is the only God we will ever see, we need to guard against taking this to mean that God has become centralized in the person of Jesus Christ so as to exclude His continual existence apart from the incarnation (what the Bible refers to as "Father"). I have heard some oneness believers go so far as to say that we should not call God "Father," thinking such is a Trinitarian word. Clearly such an approach is unbiblical and unnecessary.

[Della Morton]

Question:

A Trinitarian friend brought this to my attention recently, and the more I thought about it, the more puzzled I became. We were talking about the greetings in the epistles, and he said that he had a greeting that ends all discussion on the Godhead: Revelation 1:4 "Grace and peace to you from him who was, and is, and is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the earth."

How could, he argued, all three [the One on the throne (presumably the Father), the seven Spirits or the Seven-fold spirit of God (presumably the Holy Spirit), and Jesus Christ Himself) distinctly send greetings if they are not distinct persons? While other greetings or benedictions can be explained in non-tripersonal terms, here we seem to have each three-fold component showing evidence of personhood by individually sending greetings. While I can understand a distinction being made between the Father and Son because of the incarnation, what about the additional greeting from the Holy Spirit?



Answer:

If we are going to use this passage to count persons in God, then let's be literal. There is one on the throne, seven Spirits, and one Jesus. If I remember something about math this equals nine. If Trinitarians want to use the distinctions found in this passage to count persons, why don't they take the only numeral (seven) in the passage seriously, concluding that there are nine persons greeting us? Why are the seven Spirits not interpreted as seven distinct persons? It is not interpreted that way because it is inconsistent with Trinitarian doctrine. Other ways are sought to explain the "seven." Some translations have translated the phrase as the "seven-fold Spirit," even though the Greek literally says "seven spirits" [plural].1 While I would agree that it is probably acceptable to interpret the Greek as "seven-fold Spirit," that interpretation is based on theological considerations, not grammatical or syntactical considerations. We know from other passages that there is only one Spirit, not seven. It is the macro-teaching of Scripture that prevents us from concluding that there are seven persons of the Spirit.

If the macro-teaching of Scripture can inform our understanding of the "seven Spirits," altering our interpretation or even translation of the same, then the macro-teaching of Scripture should also inform us as to whether or not we should use this one passage to conclude that God is three persons. Seeing that we would not interpret this passage to mean that there are nine persons greeting us, neither do I find warrant from this passage to conclude that there are three persons greeting us. If God is three persons, evidence must be found for this on the macro-level.

The difficulty we encounter in Revelation 1:4 may be explained by examining the greetings found in the NT that say something similar to "Greetings from God, and the Father, and Jesus Christ" (Ephesians 5:20; Colossians 1:3; 3:17; James 1:27). Trinitarians are insistent that "God" and "Father" refer to the same person in these texts even though two distinct designations are given for that one person. They would never say there are three persons being referred to. Even in the modern translations it is common for Trinitarians to translate the first kai as "even," and translate the second kai as "and." While I believe this is a valid translation (and the preferred translation) because it is within the semantic domain of kai, it does not need to be translated this way. Why is it then? It is because of an already developed theology. Trinitarians and Oneness believers both recognize that "God" and "Father" refer to the same person, and thus the more infrequent meaning of kai (even) is chosen.

How Trinitarians choose to look at these passages comes from their existing understanding of the relationship of "God" and "Father." I could just as well, however, translate both kais as "and," making a distinction of personhood between "God" and "Father." What prohibits me from doing so?--the rest of Scripture! On the micro-level, just looking at the grammar of these particular texts I could say there are three different persons being referred to, without the mention of some fourth person called the Holy Spirit. On the macro-level, however, my error of thought would soon be revealed.

Revelation 1:4 should be approached in a similar manner to the greeting passages discussed above. On the micro-level, in isolation from other passages, it could possibly be translated and interpreted to refer to three distinct persons. The question is whether or not this conclusion would fit with the macro teaching of Scripture (See my article titled Why Be a Trinitarian?).

How to Do Theology

Is Revelation 1:4 a difficult passage? Yes, but there are just as many difficult texts for Trinitarians as there are for Oneness believers. The Godhead issue will not be solved by examining the evidence solely on the micro-level. We must first establish a Biblical foundation upon which to interpret difficult texts. We build that foundation through observing the Biblical data as a whole, not an isolated and difficult verse here and there. When it comes to the Oneness vs. Trinity debate we must ask ourselves which view is better supported by the larger picture of Scripture. While there may be verses which seem to indicate a Trinity of eternal persons on the micro-level, we would only be justified in concluding that God is indeed a Trinity if such an interpretation is supported on the macro-level. If Trinitarianism cannot be supported on a macro-level of exegesis, then we should not interpret particular verses within a Trinitarian construct.

Every theological system can be likened to a chain. There is no perfect chain. Chains have both strong and weak links. Choosing a good chain involves finding the chain with the greatest number of strong links and fewest number of weak links. The same applies in theology. Every theological chain has strong links, but even the best theological chains have weak links. To "choose" a good theological chain is not to find a theology with no difficulties, but a theology with the greatest strengths and fewest weaknesses. People, however, have the tendency to hold on to weakly supported doctrines simply because 3 out of the 100 links on the theological chain have yet to be broken (i.e. proven to be in error) by another theological system. The fact that 97 links have been broken is simply ignored. Just as it would be intellectually absurd to believe we have dismantled a theological chain of 100 links simply because we have exposed 3 weak links in it, it is also intellectually absurd to hold on to a theological chain with three remaining strong links simply because those three have yet to be broken. Every theological system is imperfect. Our goal cannot be to find the theological chain with no weak links, or to hang on to the chain that has that one unbroken link, but to find and adopt the chain with the greatest number of strong links, and the least number of weak links. As a good friend of mine once said, "I do not ask for a theology that solves all of my problems; rather I simply desire a teaching that makes the most sense of the biblical record and takes the whole text seriously." Ockham had a good razor!

Finding one verse that "sounds" Trinitarian does not discount the majority of the Biblical witness that argues against such a conclusion. Even heretics appeal to Scripture in support of their teachings. As Richard Rice said, "The Scriptures contain such vast and varied material that it is not difficult to surround an idea with biblical quotations. The crucial question is whether the idea is faithful to the overall biblical portrait of God." To judge any theological system, then, we must question whether or not it accurately reflects the Biblical teaching as a whole, or if it has merely found Biblical statements to support an unbiblical theology.

Conclusion

We must interpret the difficult passages in light of the macro teaching of Scripture even though our conclusions may not always be to our complete satisfaction, nor to the complete satisfaction of those of the opposing position. While I understand that hermeneutics is spiral in nature, interpretation on the level being discussed here must be done from the macro to the micro-level, not vice-versa. While we must grapple with the Biblical text on the micro-level, we can only do so after having established the Biblical teaching on God on the macro-level, and the macro-level of Scripture will not support the Trinitarian conclusions. If Trinitarianism is not assumed from the beginning there would be no reason to interpret Revelation 1:4 in the fashion your friend is interpreting it.

[Della Morton]

Question:

In your article titled A Oneness View of Jesus' Prayers you seemed to argue that because Jesus is spoken of as distinct from and yet personally equivalent to God, Trinitarians must admit that He is likewise distinct from, but personally equivalent to the Father. Am I understanding your argument properly? If so, how does that follow?




Answer:

My argument is that a distinction between the Father and Son tells us very little in itself. We need to understand the reason for, location of, and nature of the distinctions. They could be personal in nature, or they could be something else. I am persuaded that Trinitarians prematurely jump to the conclusion that they are personal based on a select number of passages. When we look at the Biblical data as a whole, however, it seems better to understand the distinctions as incarnational rather than personal in nature. But if Trinitarians want to point to the mere presence of distinctions between the Father and Son as conclusive evidence that distinct persons are in view, then why should we not also conclude based on the mere presence of distinctions between Jesus and God that Jesus is not God?

Such an interpretation of these passages would be foolish because it contradicts so much else the Bible has to say concerning the identity of Jesus Christ. They cannot mean what they seem to mean on their face. A deeper explanation is required. We derive that explanation from the macro-level of Scripture, taking into account all things said concerning Christ and His relationship to God.

Likewise, those passages which seem to portray Jesus as a distinct person from the Father cannot mean what they seem to mean on their face because that conclusion contradicts so much else Scripture teaches about the nature of God. These passages, like those that seem to indicate Jesus is distinct from God, require a deeper explanation.

So I am not arguing that the passages distinguishing Jesus from God require Trinitarians to admit that Jesus is distinct from, but personally equivalent to the Father. I am arguing that the mere presence of distinctions is not sufficient to demonstrate a personal distinction between Father and Son (an assumption made by most Trinitarians). Yes, the Father is distinct from the Son, but the Bible does not explain the metaphysical location, nor the precise nature of that distinction. The distinction could be personal in nature as Trinitarian theology maintains, or it could be incarnational in nature as Oneness theology maintains. That question must be decided on a proper weighing of all the Biblical data, not on the mere presence of distinctions.

[Della Morton]

Question:

Oneness believers have a false Jesus. For you, like the Jehovah’s Witnesses (the modern form of the ancient heresy of Arianism) deny that the Son is eternal, and thus make Jesus out to be a mere created being. Only Trinitarians believe that the Son is both God and eternal. Oneness people deny that the Son is God. Only the Father who indwells the Son is regarded as the eternal God, but not the Son.

I realize that you claim that the Son is God, but if He is how can you claim that the Son did not eternally exist as the Son? God does not change (Malachi 3:6; Hebrews 13:8), so if the Son is God, then the Son is eternal. Your position is a denial of God's immutability, and a denial of the deity of the Son.

You will not admit that the Son is eternal because if He was, according to Oneness theology, God could no longer be considered to be "one person," which is so important to your theology.



Answer:

Let me explain what Oneness theology does and does not mean when it says that the Son is not eternal. I also wish to demonstrate why we cannot be compared with Arianism (or its modern expression among Jehovah’s Witnesses) which contends that the Son is a created deity, and thus not eternal.

Oneness theology does not deny that the Son is eternal, nor does it confess that Jesus is a created deity. It is one thing to say that Christ's deity is the same as the Father as do Oneness believers, but it is another thing to say that the deity of Christ is a created deity by the Father as do JWs. The only way in which it could be said that Oneness believers believe in a created Son is that we believe Jesus' humanity came into existence at 5-4 BC. (because we understand "Son" as being intrinsically connected with the incarnation), but this is believed by all Christians, not just Oneness believers. If we are not claiming that Jesus' deity is created by the Father, then we do not hold to the JW doctrine, and thus we cannot be accused of teaching a created Son anymore than Trinitarians can be accused of such. Where Trinitarians and Oneness differ is whether or not the eternal deity of the Son of God is the same personal deity as the Father, or a distinct person in the Godhead.

Oneness people deny the orthodox Trinitarian doctrine that the Son of God is eternally begotten according to His deity, confessing only that He was begotten in time according to His humanity. We do confess that the deity of the Son, Yahweh, is eternal. The disagreement between Oneness believers and Trinitarians pertains to whether or not the deity of Christ is a distinct eternal personality in the Godhead from the Father, or whether His deity is the same person of the Father, but incarnated in flesh. We disagree with Trinitarianism that the deity of the Son is distinct in person from the deity of the Father.

Is the Oneness concept of the incarnation in error? If it is, then so is the Trinitarian concept. Our concept of the uni-personal, eternal God becoming incarnated, yet still existing beyond the incarnation is no different in principle from the Trinitarian concept that a second eternal person of the tri-personal Godhead became incarnated, yet still continued to exist beyond the incarnation (This is why your charge that a Oneness perspective of the incarnation violates Malachi 3:1 is unfounded. If our theology demands that God changed, do does yours. This is not a problem unique to Oneness theology. Whether you say it was the uni-personal God who was incarnated, or the second person of the tri-personal God who became incarnated, you have God experiencing something He never experienced before). Neither of our positions deny the eternal deity of the Jesus, and both confess the temporal beginning of His humanity.

Because we see the appellation, "Son," as applying only after the incarnation, we do not usually say that the Son is eternal, because from our perspective such would be an affirmation that Christ's humanity was eternal. From your perspective "Son" is an eternal person in the Godhead apart from, but also including the incarnation, not just God's incarnation into a human existence. You understand Son to refer to both pre and post-incarnation, while we understand the term to only apply after the incarnation, coming into existence only because of the addition of humanity to God’s previously unmitigated deity, to describe the relationship between God transcendent beyond humanity and God limited in a human existence. Because of this Trinitarians see the Oneness refusal to say that the Son is eternal as a denial that His deity is eternal. As you can see, we are each using "Son" in different ways. You must understand our use of the term "Son" in its theological context lest you think we are saying that Jesus’ deity was created.

Let me elaborate on the Oneness understanding of "Son." We understand the appellation to be a relational term arising only after the incarnation, and as calling attention to the humanity emerging from the incarnation. As such we would not say the Son is eternal because we do not believe that Jesus, who is God and man simultaneously in one person, existed in such a state before the incarnation. Trinitarians concur with this. We are only stating the obvious. We do confess that Jesus, as it pertains to His deity, is eternal. It is just that we see that deity as being the uni-personal God, the Father, and not a second person of a trinity, the Son. There is no denial that Jesus' deity is eternal, we simply do not see His deity as being a separate eternal person in the Godhead. We do not say that the Son is eternal because Jesus' humanity is not eternal.. The difference between Oneness and Trinitarian theology is not that Oneness does not see Jesus' humanity as eternal, nor is it that Oneness does not see Jesus' deity as being eternal, but rather that we understand Jesus' deity to be that of the Father, and not of a second eternal person called God the Son.

Let it not be thought that because Oneness theology only applies the term "Son" in connection with the incarnation that this means that Oneness theology believes "Son" refers only to Jesus’ humanity, in contradistinction to His deity. Although some Oneness theologians tend to limit "Son" to refer to Jesus' humanity only, this is not the position of all Oneness believers. Some would contend that "Son" refers to Jesus' whole person, and is not "assigned" to either His deity or to His humanity. Son refers to the God-man, Jesus Christ, who was conceived by the Holy Ghost and born of the virgin Mary.1

"Son" refers to more than Jesus’ human nature, but we do not see it as appropriate to apply the term to God apart from the incarnation in Christ. Oneness theology sees the term "Son" coming into use because of the incarnation, being used to distinguish God's existence in the flesh and God's existence beyond the flesh (There are no OT references to the Son of God. The fact that we do not find this language employed until the NT causes us to believe that the usage is due to the incarnation wherein God actually fathered Jesus Christ). We contend that "Son" never refers to the incorporeal Spirit alone apart from referencing the humanity of Christ.

We are against the term "God the Son" because it equates the word "Son" with deity alone, which we do not find Scriptural support for so doing. We see the references to the Son as emphasizing the humanity God assumed in the incarnation, but do not exclude Jesus' deity from this reference. But only the whole person of Christ, both deity and humanity, can rightly be called the Son.

Footnotes

1. That "Son" cannot attributed purely to Christ's humanity is evidenced by the fact that Hebrews 1:8-9 connects "Son" with "God," saying, "But unto the Son He says, 'Your throne, O God...'." If Son referred only to Christ's human nature, such a statement would be meaningless. Clearly the author of Hebrews is attributing deity to Son. Another example is found in Matthew 16:16-17 when it is revealed to Peter that Jesus is the Son of God. If "Son of God" only refers to Jesus' humanity, no revelation from the Father would have been necessary. Anybody could have seen that Jesus was a human being by just looking at Him. Even the unbelieving Jews understood Him to be a genuine human being. It is what the Jews could not believe, that Peter understood by the revelation of God; i.e. Jesus was divine, being both God and man simultaneously.

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

Amen Bro. Watson! I totally agree.......

Della, so you won't waste your breathe on me? Some brotherly love in Christ. Thanks for allowing me to see that not only is your doctrine off, but your fruit of the Spirit are spoiled.

In regards to the Roman Catholic Church comments you made to me, you are in a slight, and yet major error. See, the people that I quoted were NOT Bishops of Rome! Ignatius was the Bishop of Antioch, which later because Eastern Orthodox. Polycarp was Bishop of Smyrna. Both of these men were trained by none other than the Apostle John himself, and Polycarp was ordained Bishop by him. You once said that the Trinity found its definition at the Nicean Council. Its because of that statement of yours that I purposely used quotes from Epistles of Apostolic Fathers that were alive hundreds of years BEFORE Nicea ever happened. These men were only a generation from the Apostles themselves; men trained by the the Bishops that the Apostles themselves appointed, or were even Bishops appointed by the Apostles. If I wanted to go Roman Church with my quotes, I wouldn't have quoted one of the Bishops of Nicea. No, I would have quoted Bishop Clement, 3rd Bishop of Rome, a disciple appointed by Apostle Peter. He, under Peter's training, taught about the Truine GOD from a Trinitarian standpoint.

So you see, I never once quoted a potentially corrupted Roman Pope; I didn't even quote a member of the Roman Church at all. Attack the Church at your own risk. Wrong or not, thats still GOD's Church you're talking about ma'am.

I too, will no longer be answering your posts, because they are full of error, long, and redundant.....

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Brothers and sisters in Christ,


1- Why can't Trinitarians explain how three( 3 ) distinct persons can be one God?

2- Do Oneness seem to lack on how to explain who Jesus is talking to, when he says my Father?


Broters and sisters, let down your dispute, Let down your own opinion, let down what people has taught you in your church.

Indeed, the Bible says:

"Not at all! Let God be true, and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge."

Romans 3:4

Let God be true, and every man a liar!

Please, take time to read my message below. It's too long, but please, take time to read it fully, then you will find the answer of these two fundamental questions:

1- Why can't Trinitarians explain how three (3) distinct persons can be one God?

2- Do Oneness seem to lack on how to explain who Jesus is talking to, when he says my Father?

Let us answer these two fundamental questions in light of the Holy Bible.
My english is not excellent enough but I hope that you will be able to understand whatever I'll tell you even if the words don't sometimes fit together.


YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH (JESUS) IS THE ONE TRUE GOD, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, THE LORD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE HEAVENLY FATHER!


YAHSHUA (JESUS) PRE-EXISTED AS YAHWEH, ELOHIM OF ISRAEL

This is not an erroneous view, but the Truth according to the Holy Scriptures!

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

Indeed, any Christian must confess that Jesus is the Son of God, according to the Holy Scriptures (John 3:16).

« but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name”.

John 20:31

Admittedly Jesus is the Son of God (1 John 3:23), but He is a particular Son. We must go further in the knowledge of Jesus, Son of God in order to distinguish who He is truly.

All the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation speaks about Jesus:

Indeed, “Philip found Nathanael and said to him, “We have found Him of whom Moses in the law, and also the prophets, wrote-Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.”

John 1:45

“And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.”

Luke 24:27

“To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins.”

Acts 10:43

Who is Jesus about whom all the Bible speaks? Who is really Jesus?

Indeed, “When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in Heaven. And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

Matthew 16:13-18

The identity of Jesus, the Christ, and the Son of the living God is a mystery which is fully revealed, only to the children of God:

« For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.”

1 Corinthians 2:11-12

We need to have a revelation from God. Indeed, flesh and blood, a Seminary, a Biblical Institute, and a School of Prophet can not make comprehensible to us the Divinity of Jesus.
The Church of Jesus-Christ is built on the rock, namely the revelation and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. Amen!

WHO IS JESUS?

Jesus Himself said:

“All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him”.

Matthew 11:27

Yes, “no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son”

Do you know the Son? Do you know the Father?

Did the Son reveal you who is really the Father?

“Jesus answered, “If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God. Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, ‘I do not know Him,’ I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”

John 8:54-56

Do you really know the Father of Jesus?
Abraham rejoiced to see the day of Jesus, and he saw it and was glad!

Do you really know who is Jesus? AMEN!

Jesus Himself said again:

“Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”

John 8:24

Yes, you will die in your sins if you don’t know who is JESUS !

YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH (JESUS) IS THE ONE TRUE GOD, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, THE LORD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE HEAVENLY FATHER!

YAHSHUA (JESUS) PRE-EXISTED AS YAHWEH, ELOHIM OF ISRAEL

The entire Bible tells you so!

Let us see it!


I - THE THEOPHANY: Jesus is the manifestation or
appearance of God to man. A divine
manifestation.

Indeed, in order to reconcile the world with Himself, God our Creator and Savior took on our condition and lived among us:

“For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross.”

Colossians 1:19-20

The Divinity has been revealed to the humanity in a body form:

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.”

1 Timothy 3:16

Please, tell me, Who was manifested in the flesh?
The Almighty God, the Heavenly God was. Amen!

Now, how IS that flesh who was Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory CALLED?

HE IS CALLED JESUS! Amen!

Do you see two “GODS” here: in one hand God the father and in the other hand the Messiah, a small god, son of God the Father?
Do you see two people?

I SEE ONE PERSON: I SEE ONE TRUE GOD, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, THE LORD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE HEAVENLY FATHER MANIFESTED IN THE FLESH AND THAT FLESH, THAT SINGLE PERSON IS CALLED JESUS. Amen!

Let us see it again:

“ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.
He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.”

John 1:1-14

Please, tell me, Who was the Word Who became flesh?
The Almighty God, the Heavenly God was. Amen!

Now, how IS that flesh who dwelt among us CALLED?

HE IS CALED JESUS, THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER! Amen!

Do you see to “GODS” here: in one hand God the WORD and in the other hand the Messiah, a small god, son of God the Father?
Do you see two people?

I SEE ONE PERSON: I SEE ONE TRUE GOD, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, THE LORD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE HEAVENLY FATHER MANIFESTED IN THE FLESH AND THAT FLESH, THAT SINGLE PERSON IS CALLED JESUS. Amen!

I do not see two “Gods”, but I see two manifestations of the one true God here:
-As a Father
- As a Son (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth). Amen!

This is the reason why the Bible declares:

“Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily”

Colossians 2:8-9

In Jesus dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily! Amen!
Jesus is not a small God (Son) beside Yahweh, the great God (Father).

The Bible teaches that there is ONE GOD:

-Deuteronomy 4 :35,39, 6 :4, 10 :17-18.
-Isaiah 41 :4, 43 :10-13, 44 :6-8, 24, 45 :5-6, 46 :9, 48 :12.
-Revelation 1 :8 ,17-18,22 :13.
-Exodus 20 :3 ; Joshua 22 :22 ; Jude 25 ; James 2 :19 ; 1Timothy 1 :17 ; 1 Corinthians 8 :6 ; Ephesians 4 :5-6 ; Galatians 3:20 ; Mark 12 :29 , 32 ; Romans 3 :30.

Not question of multiplicity of people in the eternally single God(Yahweh). No!
But, WHO is the FATHER to whom Jesus used to refer?
Indeed, “Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.”

John 14:8-11

Question: “Lord, show us the Father?”

Answer: “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not
known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the
Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do
you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father
in Me?”

Amen!

Do you see two people?
The Bible declares that He who has seen Jesus has seen the Father:
« And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me”.

John 12:45

Why ?

Simply because Jesus Himself said :
“I and My Father are one.”

John 10:30

Jesus and His Father are not two “Gods” but one God, one Person. You need to have a revelation to understand this.
This is the reason why Brother Paul said:
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh…” (1Timothy 3:16).

Jesus said: « Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me”.

John 14:6

He didn’t say “no one goes to the Father” but He said “no one comes to the Father”
Do you understand the Holy Scriptures? May God enlighten you so that you can see that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself:
“ that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation”.

2 Corinthians 5:19

This is the reason why the Bible declares:

“No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.

John 1:18

Indeed, Immanuel,God with us (Matthew 1: 23) bore the name of Jesus-Christ and it is by this physical body in which He was incarnated that He offered the sacrifice which erased all our iniquities. He had never sinned, but the punishment which gives us peace fell on Him. It is because the man, in his body of flesh fell into the sin and by that was (condemned) delivered to death, that The Almighty God(YAHWEH), the Redeemer came in the same form in which lives the sin(Hebrews 2:17).

Let us see His promise in the Old Testament:

“Strengthen the feeble hands, steady the knees that give way; say to those with fearful hearts, "Be strong, do not fear; your God will come, he will come with vengeance; with divine retribution he will come to save you." Then will the eyes of the blind be opened and the ears of the deaf unstopped.Then will the lame leap like a deer, and the mute tongue shout for joy. Water will gush forth in the wilderness and streams in the desert.”

Isaiah 35:3-6

Let us see the fulfilment (achievement) of that promise in the New Testament:

“Then the disciples of John reported to him concerning all these things. And John, calling two of his disciples to him, sent them to Jesus, saying, “Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?”
When the men had come to Him, they said, “John the Baptist has sent us to You, saying, ‘Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?’” And that very hour He cured many of infirmities, afflictions, and evil spirits; and to many blind He gave sight.
Jesus answered and said to them, “Go and tell John the things you have seen and heard: that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, the poor have the gospel preached to them. And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.”

Luke 7:18-23; Matthew 11:1-5

When John the Baptist Sends Messengers to Jesus in order to ask Him if He were the Coming One, did Jesus answered “Yes”? No, He didn’t.
Jesus simply asked John The Baptist to refer to what the Prophets wrote about Him in The Old Testament. Please read Isaiah 61:1-3 and Luke 4:16-21.

“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever”.

Hebrews 13:8

The Savior in the Old Testament (Yahweh) is the same one in the New Testament (Jesus). The Almighty God, our Redeemer made the promise in the old alliance and He came indeed in a body of flesh, bore the name “Jesus-Christ” to achieve the work of redemption in the new alliance.

Up to that point I have not discovered two distinct people yet but there is the same God, the Father who took the attribute of Son in order to achieve the work of redemption(Acts 4:12).

Jesus was without sin (1 Peter 1: 19), but He was made sinned for us, so that we became in Him justice of God (2 Corinthians 5:21).
The will of God was to pull off the sinful creation from its state of sin (Galatians 3: 13). All those which believe in the doctrines of the trinity lost the revelation of the single God Who was manifested in the Old Testament like the Father, appeared in the Gospels as a Son (Jesus), and appeared in the book of the Acts of the Apostles as the Holy Spirit.

Actually, they are only three dispensations of same God:

1) God above us
2) God with us
3) God in us

“one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all”.

Ephesians 4:5-6

It is not a question of two or three people, but one glorious character, marvelously revealed (Hebrews 1: 1-3).
Indeed, the Father and the Son do not constitute two distinct people. The Father is God and the Son is the flesh or the Man in whom God dwelt with a view to achieve the work of redemption (Luke 1:35).

The belief in two or three distinct people in the Divinity is an idolatry, it is polytheism. The Spirit of God was always expressed through the Prophets and the Apostles to reveal the supreme deity of Jesus-Christ and to attest that there is one God.
It is not that there are three gods or three people, but God in three functions. There is only one God with three titles: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Indeed, all the expressions: Faithful Witness, He who is, He who was and He who is to come, First born from the dead, the Rose of Sharon, the Lily of the valley, Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star, Alpha and the Omega, the Almighty, Immanuel, Counsellor, Prince of peace, Savior, Powerful God, the lion of the tribe of Judah, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, are titles and descriptions of the only one God namely our Lord Jesus-Christ:

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name is called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace”.

Isaiah 9:6

Amen!

Trinity is not scriptural. I do agree with Brother William Marrion Branham when he said: How can three people be only one God? Not only, there is no biblical passage which supports this, but that indicates even a gap of reasoning. Three distinct people, although identical in their substance make three gods or the language does not have any more a sense!

Jesus is not a small god beside His Father. But Jesus is the true God and eternal life (1 John 5:20).

Jesus is the Almighty God:

“Behold, he comes with the clouds, and every eye shall see him, and they which have pierced him, and all the tribes of the land shall wail because of him. Yea. Amen. I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith the Lord God, he who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty”.

Revelation 1:7-8

Who was the Father of Jesus?

The Bible declares in Matthew 1:18 that Mary, the mother of Jesus was pregnant by the virtue of the Holy Spirit.
But our Lord Jesus supports that God is His Father (John 14: 7-13).
If, according to the trinity doctrine, the Holy Spirit and the Father make two distinct people, then would Jesus have had two Fathers? No!
Indeed, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, are titles and descriptions of the only one God namely our Lord Jesus-Christ.

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, please, be careful for the Bible declares:

“Hereby ye know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses Jesus Christ come in flesh is of God; and every spirit which does not confess Jesus Christ come in flesh is not of God: and this is that power of the antichrist, of which ye have heard that it comes, and now it is already in the world.

1 John 4:2-3

Be careful!!!

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

II – TO WHOM THEN WILL YE LIKEN GOD? AND WHAT
LIKENESS WILL YE COMPARE UNTO HIM?(Isaiah 40:18)

“TO WHOM THEN WILL YE LIKEN ME, OR SHALL I BE
EQUAL? SAITH THE HOLY ONE”( Isaiah 40:25)


As for His nature, God(Yahweh) is Spirit (John 4: 24). As a Spirit, no one has seen Him (John 1: 18). This is why He is called “invisible God” (1Timothy 1: 17, 6: 16).
Those who saw God in the Old Testament saw Him in the form of the Eternal (Yahweh) and those who want to see Him in the New Testament must see Him in the form of the Lord Jesus, as Immanuel, God with us (Matthew 1: 23).
Thus, the Father appeared in the Son. God is Spirit and He came as a Lord in a human body.

This is the reason why all the names or attributes which we find in connection with God, we also find them in connection with the Lord Jesus.

A - THE SPIRIT

1- God (YAHWEH) is Spirit.

John 4: 24, Isaiah 63: 10-14.

2- Jesus-Christ is also Spirit

2 Corinthians 3: 17.

It is here about the same God (Yahweh), the same Spirit, the Holy Spirit!!!

The Bible declares:

« They made their hearts as hard as flint and would not listen to the law or to the words that the LORD Almighty had sent by his Spirit through the earlier prophets. So the LORD Almighty was very angry”.

Zechariah 7:12

It was the same Spirit Who led the Man Jesus into the desert to be tempted by the devil (Matthew 4:1). It was the same Spirit Who anointed the Man Jesus(Acts 10:38). It was the same Spirit Who dwelt inside the Man Jesus. The Almighty God was in the Man Jesus in order to save us.


B- THE REDEEMER AND SAVIOR

1- God (YAHWEH) is the single Redeemer and Savior

- Isaiah 35: 4; 63: 16; 44: 6, 24; 48:17; 43: 3, 11,14; 45: 21; 47: 4; 49: 26;
- Psalm 78: 34-35; 106: 21;
- Luke 1: 46-47; 1Timothy 4: 10, 2: 3; Titus 3: 4; - Daniel 6: 26-27; Zechariah 12: 7; Jude 25.

2- Jesus-Christ is also the single Redeemer and Savior

-1John 4: 14; Luke 24: 21, 2: 10-11; Philippians 3: 20; Titus 1:
4; Galatians 3: 13;
-1 Peter 1: 10-11, 2: 21-24;
- Acts 20: 28, 13: 23; Hebrews 7: 25;
- John 4: 40-42, 12: 47; Matthew 1: 21.
- Zechariah 9:9

There are not two Redeemers and Saviors (in one hand Jesus, a small god, the Son, and in other hand His Father, Yahweh, the Great God).No!
All the Scriptures above speak about the same Almighty God Who is the single Redeemer and Savior. His name revealed in the New Testament is Jesus-Christ!!!

Let us see it:

“And Jehovah shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem be not magnified over Judah”.

Zechariah 12:7

“And I will pour upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of grace and of supplications; and they shall look on me whom they pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for an only [son], and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for [his] firstborn”.

Zechariah 12:10

Jehovah, the Savior in the Old Testament is the Firstborn; the savior in the New Testament Who has been pierced, namely Jesus-Christ (Luke 24:39-41, Revelation 1:7).

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name is called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace”.

Isaiah 9:6

Let us see it again:

“bondmen to be subject to their own masters, to make themselves acceptable in everything; not gainsaying; not robbing [their masters], but shewing all good fidelity, that they may adorn the teaching which is of our Saviour God in all things”.

Titus 2:9-10

The Bible declares that God is our Savior. What does it say about Jesus?

“awaiting the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ; who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all lawlessness, and purify to himself a peculiar people, zealous for good works”.

Titus 2:13-14

Jesus is not a small god beside Yahweh the great God, but Jesus Himself is our great God and Savior. Yahweh, the Savior in the Old Testament is Jesus the Savior in the New Testament Insofar as there are not two gods or two saviors. Amen!

Please, answer this question:

“To whom then will ye liken God? and what likeness will ye compare unto him?

Isaiah 40:18

God is one!!!!

Our great God and Saviour is Jesus Christ!!!

“and almost all things are purified with blood according to the law, and without blood-shedding there is no remission.”

Hebrews 9:22

God being Spirit, It was necessary that He formed a body of flesh, having blood, for sacrifice which erased all our iniquities (Hebrews 9: 11-15, 10: 4-5).
“For blood of bulls and goats is incapable of taking away sins. Wherefore coming into the world he says, Sacrifice and offering thou willedst not; but thou hast prepared me a body”.

Hebrews 10:4-6

Jesus is God manifested in Flesh in order to save us. Amen!


C - THE CREATOR

1 – God (Yahweh) is the single Creator

- Genesis 1: 1, 2: 7; Job 38: 4, 33: 4; Zechariah 12: 1;
- Psalm 102: 26, 3: 6, 104: 30;
- Isaiah 40: 28, 44: 24, 45: 9-11,18;
- Malachi 2: 10, Nehemiah 9: 6; John 1: 1-5;
- Revelation 14: 7, 10: 6, 4: 11; Ephesians 3: 8-9.

2 -Jesus-Christ is also the single Creator

-John 1: 10; Colossians 1: 12-17; Revelation 21: 5-6.

There are not two creators or two people of a certain trinity who could be creators. The biblical passages above deal with the single God who is the Creator of the Heathen and the Earth, and His name is Jesus-Christ.

Let us see it!

“yet to us there is one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we for him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.”

1 Corinthians 8:6

Do you see two creators or two different people here?
The single God, the Father, is the Lord Jesus-Christ by Whom are all things. Amen!

D – THE SHEPHERD

1- God (Yahweh) is the single Shepherd

-Psalm 23: 1, 100: 3, 28: 9;
-Isaiah 40: 10-11.

2 - Jesus-Christ is the single Shepherd

- John 10: 8-16; 1 Peter 2: 21-25, 5: 4;
- Hebrews 13: 20.

There is only one herd and only one Shepherd, He is our God, our Lord and savior Jesus-Christ.


E-THE ROCK

1- God (Yahweh) is the single Rock

- Isaiah 44: 8, 17: 10;
- Psalm 18: 2-3, 28: 8, 31: 3-4, 42: 10, 78: 35, 89: 27;
-1Samuel 2: 2; 2 Samuel 22: 32;
- Deuteronomy 32: 14.

2- Jesus-Christ is the single Rock

- Isaiah 28: 16; Numbers 20: 11;
-1 Corinthians 10: 4; Acts 4: 11
-12; Ephesians 2: 20; - Matthew 16: 17-19; 1 Peter 2: 6-8.

There is only one Rock, it is our God and our Lord Jesus- Christ:
“and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they drank of a spiritual rock which followed them: now the rock was the Christ;”
1 Corinthians 10:4

Amen!

F- THE FIRST AND THE LAST

1 – God (Yahweh) is the First and the Last

- Isaiah 41: 4, 43: 10-13, 44: 6, 48: 12.

2 - Jesus-Christ is the First and the Last

- Revelation 1: 7-8, 17-18, 22: 13, 21: 6;
- Hebrews 13: 8

Do you see here two distinct, coequal and coeternal Gods?

The Bible is formal:

« And the LORD shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be- “The LORD is one,”And His name one”.

Zechariah 14:9

“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one”

Deuteronomy 6:4


G - THE KING

1- God (Yahweh) is the single King

- Psalm 44: 5, 47: 7-10, 74: 12;
- Isaiah 6: 5,43: 15, 44: 6;
- Zechariah 14: 9; Jeremiah 10: 10.

2- Jesus-Christ is the single King

- Matthew 2: 1-6, 27: 11;
- Luke 19: 38, 23: 3; Mark 15: 2; John 18: 33-36, 19: 21-22; 1 Timothy 6: 13-16;
- Revelation 1: 5, 15: 3-4, 19: 16, 17: 14;
- Zechariah 9: 9.

If God (Yahweh) is the everlasting King (Jeremiah 10: 10) and that Jesus-Christ is the King of the kings (Revelation 19:16), are we in the presence of two distinct people, two distinct Kings?
Can we have two distinct Kings, reigning in the Heaven and on the Earth? No!

There is only one God and only one King: He is Jesus-Christ. Indeed, “He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things” (Ephesians 4: 10)
Besides, the Bible declares:

“And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth”.

Matthew 28: 18


H – THE “I AM”

1-God(Yahweh) is known as: “I am He”

- Exodus 3: 13-14; Isaiah 43: 10-11, 25.

2 - Jesus-Christ is known as: “I am He”

- John 18: 5 – 8; 8: 24, 57-59; 9: 35-38; 13: 13;
- Revelation1: 7-8, 17,18;
- Luke 23: 3

God (Yahweh) alone is known as “I Am”. It is Jesus-Christ!!!
“Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by”.

John 8:57-59

I – HE WHO IS TO COME

1- God(Yahweh) is the One Who is to come

- Isaiah 40: 3-5; Psalm 50: 1-6; Zechariah 14: 3-5;

2- Jesus-Christ is the one Who is to come

-1 Thessalonians 3: 11-13, 4: 13-18; Revelation 19: 11-16;
- Malachi 3: 1; Matthew 25: 31-46; Revelation 1: 7-8.

There are not two or three distinct people who are to come. But we are “looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,”

Titus 2: 13

“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
"Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
"I, JESUS, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."

Revelation 22:13-16

JESUS is not a small god beside Yahweh, but He is our great God and Savior! He is Yahweh Himself manifested in the flesh in order to save us! Amen!


J - THE HUSBAND

1- God (Yahweh) is our Husband

“For your Maker is your husband, The LORD of hosts is His name; And your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel; He is called the God of the whole earth. For the LORD has called you. Like a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, Like a youthful wife when you were refused,” Says your God. “For a mere moment I have forsaken you, But with great mercies I will gather you”.

Isaiah 54: 5-7

2- Jesus-Christ is our Husband

- Acts 2: 19-20; Revelation 21: 9.

There is only one bride (the Church of Jesus-Christ) and also only one Husband: Yahweh manifested in flesh (Jesus-Christ), otherwise, we would be in the presence of an obvious case of polyandry.


III- THE MAN CHRIST JESUS

Any Christian must confess that Jesus is the Son of God (John 3:16, 5:17-18; Matthew 26:63-64, 16:16; 3:17; 1 John 4:15).
But, in this precise case we refer only to THE MAN CHRIST JESUS:

“For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,”

1 Timothy 2:5

As a true Man, Jesus could eat, drink, sleep, tire and even weep (John 11: 35).
As a true Man, He died, but as God (Yahweh) He raised Himself up: “Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

John 2: 19

The Almighty God took the form of a Man. And this body of Flesh which He called his Son is the Mediator between Him and the men.
Thus, as a true Man He could feel asleep (Luke 8:23), but as God (Yahweh), Jesus-Christ could walk on the sea (Matthew 14:24-26), rebuke the wind and the raging of the water (Luke 8: 24-25):

“But He said to them, “Where is your faith?” And they were afraid, and marveled, saying to one another, “Who can this be? For He commands even the winds and water, and they obey Him!”

Luke 8:25

Jesus Christ is the Almighty God!

As God (Yahweh), He could rebuke unclean spirits, drive out the demons, heal the sicks: indeed, The Bible declares:

“And as he was still coming, the demon threw him down and convulsed him. Then Jesus rebuked the unclean spirit, healed the child, and gave him back to his father. And they were all amazed at the majesty of God” (Luke 9:42-43).

Jesus is the Almighty God!

As God (Yahweh) He cold forgive sins:

« And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, “Who is this who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

Luke 5:21, Luke 7:49

As God (Yahweh), He could open eyes of His Disciples and vanish from their sight
(Luke 24:31).

As God (Yahweh) He is omniscient and omnipresent (Luke 19:29-35; Luke 22:10-13).

As God (Yahweh), Jesus “…had no need that anyone should testify of man, for He knew what was in man.”

John 2:25

“then hear from heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive, and give to everyone according to all his ways, whose heart You know (for You alone know the hearts of the sons of men),”

2 Chronicles 6:30

Jesus is the Almighty God. Amen!

As God (Yahweh) He could enter a house doors of which were shut (without opening the doors) (John 20: 19),

As God (Yahweh), He could appear in the Sky in the form of light and shine around Saul (Acts 9: 1-5),

As God (Yahweh) He escape while passing through the midst of Jews without those being able to capture Him before the indicated time (Luke 4: 29-30).
The living God (Yahweh) in a body of flesh could say:

“Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” (John 8: 58).
« Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God”.

John 5:18

“The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

John 10:33

A Man (Son of God), but making Himself God (God manifested in flesh).

Jesus is the Almighty God! Amen!

If these Jews had the revelation of the real nature of our Lord Jesus-Christ, they would have understood that He was called Son of God as a Man, a body of flesh, but He made Himself God because He is God manifested in the flesh, Immanuel, God with us(Matthew 1:23).

There are not two people here. There are not two or three gods but two attributes of same God (Yahweh) here.

Paul received the revelation about the real nature of Jesus-Christ. This is why he said:

“looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,”

Titus 2:13

Thomas also understood that and said to Jesus Christ: “My Lord and my God!” (John 20: 28).

“Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

(John 20:29)

O Blessed are you if you believe that Jesus is the Almighty God. Amen!

Brother Peter said:

« that word you know, which was proclaimed throughout all Judea, and began from Galilee after the baptism which John preached: how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him”.

Acts 10:37-38

Moreover, it is written:
« You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”

Hebrews 1:9

« God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit”, “God was with Him”, “Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You”.

All these phrases above do not mean that there are two Gods. God who is spirit was in the man Jesus-Christ, reconciling the world to Himself (2 Corinthians 5:19).

Indeed, God is one. The Bible is monotheist(Isaiah 45:5;18). All those who believe that there are two Gods are polytheists.

Jesus is not a small god beside the great God Yahweh, but He is God manifested in the flesh. In Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (Colossians 2:8-9).
Amen!

God of the Old Testament is Jesus-Christ of the New Testament. Didn’t Isaiah prophesy about the divinity of Jesus? Let us see it!

« For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace”.

Isaiah 9:6

Don't you believe that the Son is the same one who is called Our Heavenly Father? Do you see two distinct people here? It is the same person who has the attributes of Father, Son, Mighty God, Counselor, Wonderful, Holy Spirit etc.
“And the Angel of the LORD said to him, “Why do you ask My name, seeing it is wonderful?”

Judges 13:18

His name is Jesus-Christ, the Almighty God who attested in front of the Jews that Moses had written of Him:

« For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?” (John 5: 46 - 47).
Consequently, when suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”
(Matthew 3: 17), that does not mean that God and the Man Jesus are two distinct people separate from one another.
Indeed, Jesus said:

« Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves”. (John 14: 11). In Jesus dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

However, it is not because God was fully in Jesus-Christ that He could not act any more everywhere.

Indeed, Our Lord fills Heaven and Earth (Jeremiah 23: 24; Isaiah 66: 1; Psalm 139: 7-10).

Moreover, Heaven and the Heaven of Heavens cannot contain God (2 Chronicles 6: 18).

God is omnipresent! Being on the Earth, He spoke from the Heaven:
“You came down also on Mount Sinai, And spoke with them from heaven, And gave them just ordinances and true laws, Good statutes and commandments” (Nehemiah 9: 13).

Moreover, Jesus at the right hand of God does not mean that God and Jesus are two distinct people sat one beside the other(side by side) on a throne in the Heaven, both remaining there for eternity and eternity (Acts 2: 33, 7: 56; Matthew 26: 64; Psalm 110: 1; Hebrews 12: 2).

This wiew is ridiculous and non scriptural. The right hand is a symbolic term which means “CAPACITY AND AUTHORITY”.
Jesus said that All authority has been given to Him in Heaven and on Earth (Matthew 28: 18).

Indeed, when God (Yahweh) became a Man (in Jesus) He achieves all His powerful works thanks to the capacity and the authority of this Man, Jesus (1 Timothy 2: 5).
All authority has been given to Him in Heaven and on Earth.
Consequently, Jesus at the right hand of God means that he is the power of God:
This is the reason why Brother Paul said:
« but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God” (1Corinthians 1: 23-24).
Let us see some examples of the symbolic use of the the phrase: “Right hand”

- « Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, And My right hand has stretched out the heavens; When I call to them, They stand up together”.

Isaiah 48:13

- “I have set the LORD always before me; Because He is at my right hand I shall not be moved”.

Psalm 16:8

-“For He shall stand at the right hand of the poor, To save him from those who condemn him”.

Psalm 109:31

- “If I take the wings of the morning, And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, Even there Your hand shall lead me, And Your right hand shall hold me”.

Psalm 139:9-10

- “My soul follows close behind You; Your right hand upholds me”.

Psalm 63:8

- “For David says concerning Him: I foresaw the LORD always before my face, For He is at my right hand, that I may not be shaken”.

Acts 2:25

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, in the Heaven, on the Throne, there are not two or three people seated side by side. There is only one person sitting on the Throne. He is Jesus-Christ, the true God and eternal Life (1John 5: 20).

Let us look at the Throne!”

“And above the firmament over their heads was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like a sapphire stone; on the likeness of the throne was a likeness with the appearance of A MAN high above it. Also from the appearance of His waist and upward I saw, as it were, the color of amber with the appearance of fire all around within it; and from the appearance of His waist and downward I saw, as it were, the appearance of fire with brightness all around”.

Ezekiel 1:26-27

How many people, did Ezekiel see on the Throne? On Person:
Jesus, the Almighty God, because Jesus said that All authority has been given to Him in Heaven and on Earth (Matthew 28: 18).

Ezekiel saw the image of the glory of the Eternal and fell on his face. He did not see two or three people as a God, but he saw only one person.
I also, by the Holy Spirit, do not see two or three people as a God, but I see only one person, Jesus-Christ.

Daniel also trough a vision saw God the Ancient of Days, seated lonely on His throne.

“ I watched till thrones were put in place, And the Ancient of Days was seated; His garment was white as snow, And the hair of His head was like pure wool. His throne was a fiery flame, Its wheels a burning fire; A fiery stream issued And came forth from before Him. A thousand thousands ministered to Him; Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him. The court was seated, And the books were opened”.

Daniel 7:9-10

Let us see also What John saw on the single Great White Throne of Judgment:

“Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them”.

Revelation 20:11

How many people, did John see on the Throne? On Person:
Jesus, the Almighty God who will judge the living and the dead a His appearing and His kingdom:

“I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom”:

2 Timothy 4:1

“Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb”.

Revelation 22:1

There is not a single Throne for two or three people in Heaven. God (Yahweh) is the one Who is called the Lamb. JESUS IS THE ALMIGTHTY GOD AND THE LAMB SEATED ON THE THRONE (Revelation 7:10-17; 22:1-6; 6:16-17; 14:1).
“When he saw JESUS passing by, he said, "Look, the Lamb of God!"
John 1:36

“Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!" The four living creatures said, "Amen," and the elders fell down and worshiped”.

Revelation 5:13-14

Now, I would like to ask you a question:

Ezekiel saw one person on the Throne. Daniel saw one person on the throne. John also saw one person on the Throne. But why do you see two Gods: God (Jesus the Son) beside God (Yahweh the Father)? Why?

Isaiah also saw one person on the Throne:

“In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and the train of His robe filled the temple”.

Isaiah 6:1

Why do you see THREE OR TWO people in God?

He who will judge all of us is the Lord Jesus-Christ (1 Corinthians 4:1-5)
God is the Judge of all:

“to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in Heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect”

Hebrews 12:23

The Holy Scriptures declares that Jesus is the Judge, and God is the Judge.
Do you see two Gods, two people, two Judges?

Jesus is the single Judge: He is the Almighty God manifested in the flesh:

“John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood,”

Revelation 1:4-5

He who is and who was and who is to come, is the single person who is sitted on the single Throne. The Almighty God is.

Jesus-Christ is the one Who is, Who was and Who is to come:

“Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 1:7-8

“And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death”.

Revelation 1:17-18

Do you see two or three Gods? Do you see two or three people?
Jesus-Christ is the righteous Judge. It is Him who sat on the throne! There are not two or three people on the same throne! No!

Please, see the aspect of this man sitting on the throne! See! Please compare the description made by Ezekiel of the Eternal (Ezekiel 1:26 - 28), and that done by Daniel of Ancient of the Days (Daniel 7: 9-13), with the one done by John (Revelation 1: 12-18).

What do we see? We see the description of God, of Jesus-Christ. When John saw Him, he fell like Ezekiel did. AMEN!

It is Him! It is the same one! It is the same person! O I Love Him! I’ve found Him! He is Jesus-Christ, the Almighty God!!!

There is “one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Ephesians 4:5-6

Who is the Father?

Who is the Son?

Who is the Holy Spirit?

They are not three people, but they are three different demonstrations of the single God (Yahweh)!

1-one God and Father of all, who is above all(Yahweh)

2-and through all( the man Jesus: Yahweh manifested in the flesh)

3-and in you all (The Holy Spirit).


THE FATHER, THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT REPRESENT ONE PERSON: JESUS CHRIST.

Indeed, Jesus said:

“And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever- the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

“A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you”.

John 14:16-20

Can someone explain the following sentence?

“At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you”.

Jesus Christ is in His Father, and He is in us.

Do you see three people here in each believer?

I see one person. Jesus the man, promised to come back and to live in the believers as the Helper. Jesus is the Helper, the Holy Spirit, living in us. Amen!

This is the reason why Brother Paul said:

“I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me”.

Galatians 2:20

Christ as the Holy Spirit lives in the believer. Amen!

Our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:19)

Our body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.

Besides, we must glorify God in our body and in our spirit, which are God’s (1 Corinthians 6:20).

Please tell me, according to the biblical passages above, would our body be inhabited by three distinct people: the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit?
Please, stop cutting out God in small pieces!

The Son lives in the Father. The son lives in us and the Father lives in us. But we are inhabited by one Spirit, the Holy Spirit, Christ, the Almighty God (2 Corinthians 3: 17, Isaiah 63: 10).

Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit:

“Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty”.

2 Corinthians 3:17

God (Yahweh) is the Holy Spirit:

“But they rebelled and grieved His Holy Spirit; So He turned Himself against them as an enemy, And He fought against them”.

Isaiah 63:10, John 4:24

“But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the HOLY SPIRIT and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to GOD.”

Acts 5:3-4

Ananias has lied to the Holy Spirit. Ananias has lied to God (Yahweh).
God (Yahweh) is the Holy Spirit: Please compare Isaiah 6:8-9 to Acts 28:25-27. Yahweh, the Holy Spirit spoke rightly through Isaiah the prophet to our fathers. Amen!
The Bible declares that Mary was found with child of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 1:18, Luke 1:35).

This Holy Spirit is Yahweh Himself; this is the reason why the Son (the body of flesh, the man Jesus) Who was born took the name “YAHSHUA” which means: “GOD SAVES”. JAHSHUA is God manifested in the flesh in order to save us.
That Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ (Galatians 4:6, Acts 16:7, Philippians 1:19).
That Spirit of Christ was in the Prophets of the Old Testament testifying beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow:
“ Of this salvation the prophets have inquired and searched carefully, who prophesied of the grace that would come to you, searching what, or what manner of time, the Spirit of Christ who was in them was indicating when He testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that would follow. To them it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to us they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven - things which angels desire to look into”.

1 Peter 1:10-12


“THE HOLY SPIRIT SENT FROM HEAVEN”! Amen!

Not two, not three people; but only one person (God) appearing in various ways. Amen!

1)Jesus-Christ comes from the Holy Spirit

Matthew 1: 20; Luke 1: 35.

2) Jesus-Christ is the Holy Spirit

2 Corinthians 3: 17; 1 Peter 1: 10-12

3-Jesus-Christ is God(Yahweh)

-John 7: 29; 8: 42; 16: 30; 17: 8; Colossians 1: 15; 2: 9
- John 1: 1-14, 3: 13 ;16: 15, 5: 17-19 ; 8: 58 ; 10: 30 ; 12: 45 ; 20: 28 ; 14: 5-11.
- Mark 10: 18 ; 12: 29.
-1John 1: 2 ; 5: 20.
- Zechariah 12: 1-10; 14: 3-5.
- Isaiah 9: 5-6; Philippians2: 6-8; Romans 9: 5; 1Timothy 3: 16; Titus 2: 13; revelation 4: 8; Hebrews 1: 8-10; Matthew 1: 23.

4) There is one God (Yahweh). Yahweh is the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ is Yahweh manifested in the flesh (1Timothy 3:16; John 1:14)
Jesus-Christ (YAHSHUA) is the name of God who saves us. It is a marvellous name, carrying hope. It is the name above all the names.
“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever”.

Hebrews 13:8

By deeply examining the texts of Zechariah and Matthew, we see that it is Yahweh who took a body of flesh called Jesus. He promised to come (Zechariah 2: 10-13).

The prophets of the Old Testament had announced is coming (Isaiah 9: 5-6) and wished to see the Messiah: God manifested in flesh (Isaiah 63: 17-19; Psalm 144: 5-7; 1 Peter 1: 10-12).

They prophesied of the grace that would come.
“To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins.”

Acts 10:43

In addition, hadn't Isaiah the Prophet already prophesied that the way of the LORD was to be prepared (Isaiah 40: 1-5)?
We realize that, this prophecy has been fulfilled in the New Testament by the ministry of John the Baptist (Matthew 3: 1-3, Malachi 3: 1-18).

Jesus was born with the human nature. He was the visible and divine equation (equality) of the invisible God (Yahweh), by taking the form of a bondservant, while becoming similar to the men:

«who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,”

Philippians 2:6-9

Do you understand the Word of God? “…And being found in appearance as a man…”

God (Yahweh) Who is SPIRIT has been found in appearance as a man (1 Timothy 3:16; John 1:14) and took the name YAHSHUA, namely “GOD SAVES”.

Indeed, Jesus-Christ had a double nature: divine and human. When in front of the tomb of Lazarus, He groaned in the spirit, was troubled and wept, He was similar to the men. He proves thus His humanity (John 11: 35).
However, when a few moments afterwards, He took authority on the death, He was fully God (John 11: 43-44).

His Divinity is thus expressed though the resurrection of Lazarus. Jesus, God manifested in flesh is the Resurrection and the Life. Amen!!!
Besides, God alone knows the thoughts of the hearts. In Jesus-Christ, in his body of flesh, God demonstrated this attribute of understanding of the thoughts (2 Chronicles 6: 30; Matthew 9: 4; Jeremiah 17: 10; Luke 24: 38).
This mystery is really great and happy is the one who can seize it! AMEN!
Who is Jesus who could say that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Him? (Luke 24: 44).

WHO IS JESUS?

Who is JESUS about Whom all the Bible speaks?

He is God (Yahweh), the Cornerstone (Ephesians 2: 20). Amen!!! He is God Himself!!

This is why, He was worshiped by the men, the angels and He is still adored by us today (Matthew 14: 33; Matthew 2: 1-2; Luke 24: 52).
The Bible says that we should adore God alone:
(Deuteronomy 6: 13-15; Matthew 4: 10; Luke 4: 8; Daniel 3: 12, 28; John 5: 23; 1 John 2: 23).

God (Yahweh) who is worthy to be adored is called Jesus-Christ. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are not three people, but three attributes of the same God, our Lord Jesus-Christ who works in all:

“There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all” (1 Corinthians 12: 4-6).

Let us listen to the testimony of the king Darius:

“in every dominion of my kingdom men must tremble and fear before the God of Daniel. For He is the living God, And steadfast forever; His kingdom is the one which shall not be destroyed, And His dominion shall endure to the end. He delivers and rescues, And He works signs and wonders In heaven and on earth, Who has delivered Daniel from the power of the lions”.

Daniel 6:26-27

The living God who saved Daniel from the lions has been manifested in flesh. Jesus operated miracles. Today, by the Holy Spirit He keeps on working signs and wonders in heaven and on earth. As He has delivered Daniel from the power of the lions, He came to save us all. He is YAHSHUA, namely “GOD SAVES”. His dominion shall endure to the end.

“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever”.

Hebrews 13:8

“Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 1:7-8

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

THE MAN JESUS IS COMPARABLE TO THE BRONZE SERPENT LIFTED IN THE WILDERNESS

The Father is God (1Corinthians 15: 24). The Father is not the Son when we refer only to the physical body in which God has been incarnated: the man Jesus. God took a body of flesh (1Timothy 3: 16). This body of flesh called Jesus was a man (hundred percent). God took a body of flesh so that He could suffer and die in order to save us (Isaiah 35: 4, Philippians 2: 5-8; Hebrews 2:9, 17; 12:2).

For this reason and for this reason only, any believer must confess that Jesus is the engendered Son of God by the Holy Spirit. It is here about the man Jesus (1Timothy 2: 5). Coming from God, His blood, His thoughts, and all His life were perfectly holy and without sin. The death and the devil did not have any power, any authority on Him. This body of flesh is comparable to the bronze serpent in the desert:

“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life”.

John 3:14-15

Jesus, the son of Man was comparable to the serpent made by Moses. That serpent was an insignificant stuff, without life. But God put His life, His healing power in it. It was lifted up by Moses.

O Hallelujah! God, the source of the life was in this apparently trivial and inanimate bronze serpent. The Bible declares that: “So Moses made a bronze serpent, and put it on a pole; and so it was, if a serpent had bitten anyone, when he looked at the bronze serpent, he lived” (Numbers 21: 9).

In the same way, Jesus was a Man (hundred percent) created by God Himself (called Son of God), in which He put his own life in order to save us:
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life”.

John 3:16

“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life”.

John 3:14-15

Do you understand now why the Holy Scriptures compare the Man Jesus to the bronze serpent?

“For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus”

1Timothy 2:5

Do you understand the Holy Scriptures? The Man Jesus, the Mediator between God and men is really God manifested in flesh.

There are not two or three people, but there is one God.

Indeed, Jesus said:

“I and My Father are one.”

John 10:30

“Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves”

John 14:9-11

“And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me”.

John 12:45

“No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him”.

John 1:18

“All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him”.

Matthew 11:27

Consequently, the Father is the Son or the Son is the Father if we refer only to Jesus-Christ as the Holy Spirit.
Indeed, to overcome death and the devil, it was absolutely necessary that He was divine (hundred percent).
The Bible teaches that:

”For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on Earth or things in Heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross”.

Colossians 1:19-20

“For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;”

Colossians 2:9

It is for this reason that any believer must confess that Jesus-Christ is God (Yahweh). He is not a small god, who might be the second person of the trinity. He is not a small god beside Yahweh, but:

-the Powerful God, our Heavenly Father (Isaiah 9: 5-6),
-the true God and eternal life (1John 5: 20),
-the eternally blessed God(Romans 9: 5),
-Our great God and our Savior Jesus-Christ (Titus 2: 13),
-Immanuel: God with us (Matthew 1: 23) Alleluia!!!!
-the Alpha and the Omega, the Lord God, Who is, Who was, Who is to come, THE ALMIGHTY(Revelation 1:7-8)

As you see, Jesus has a double nature: divine and human:

« What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!”

John 6:62

Before, He was God (Yahweh). He became flesh, Son of Man in order to save us. He ascended where He was before. Then, He appeared to Saul on the Damascus road:

"And he said, “Who are You, Lord?” Then the Lord said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads.”

Acts 9:5

In Heaven, there is Jesus alone. There aren’t two “Gods” (the Father and His son) sitting side by side on the throne. No!


JESUS (JAHSHUA) IS THE NAME OF GOD (YAHWEH) WHO SAVES US


“And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS”.

Luke 1:31

Our Lord Jesus said:

“Father, glorify Your name.” Then a voice came from Heaven, saying, “I have both glorified it and will glorify it again.”

John 12:28

What is the name of the Father, which He has glorified?
« In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in Heaven, Hallowed be Your name”.

Matthew 6:9

What is the name of the Father, which must be hallowed?

Our Heavenly Father Himself has said:

“I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name LORD I was not known to them”.

Exodus 6:3

We notice here that God (Yahweh) at various periods appeared to His servants under different names. The Holy Scriptures does not say expressly that “Father” is the name by which God appears to us today. No passage attests that!
However, the Bible reveals:

“God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they”.

Hebrews 1:1-4

Which name has the Son Who is the brightness of the glory and the express image of the person of God (YAHWEH) obtained by inheritance?

What is the name which is more excellent than that of the angels?

Besides, the Bible declares:

“No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him”.

John 1:18

Indeed, the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father said to the Father:

“I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word”.

John 17:6

What is the name of the Father, which has been manifested by His Son?
The Man Jesus said:

“I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive”.

John 5:43

What is JESUS’ FATHER’S NAME?
The name implies the authority, the character, the rank, the Majesty, the Capacity and the Excellency of the named person. The personal name of God (Yahweh) is JESUS (YAHSHUA).

This name represents all the characteristics of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. This is why the Apostles were ordered to announce the Word of God to the nations in this name:

“So they called them and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of JESUS”.

Acts 4:18

The name of JESUS (JAHSHUA) means “GOD SAVES”:

“And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins.”

Matthew 1:21

« Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Acts 4:12

The name of JESUS contains the ESSENCE of the Divinity in the titles Father, Son and Holy Spirit, for Jesus is the Savior, the Redeemer and the Liberator.

- Even the demons are subject to the Disciples in the name of JESUS.

Luke 10:17

- Where two or three are gathered together in the name of JESUS, He is there in the midst of them.

Matthew 18:20

- Repentance and remission of sins should be preached in the name of JESUS to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Luke 24:47

- To Him all the prophets witness that, through His NAME (JESUS), whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins.

Acts 10:43

- By believing that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, we may have life in His name (JESUS).

John 20:31

- At the name of JESUS every knee should bow, of those in Heaven, and of those on Earth, and of those under the Earth.

Philippians 2:10

“And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God”.

1 John 5:11-13

We must believe in the name of the Son of God in order to have Eternal life. This name is JESUS.

Now, can someone answer my questions?

Our Lord Jesus said:

“Father, glorify Your name.” Then a voice came from heaven, saying, “I have both glorified it and will glorify it again.”

John 12:28

What is the name of the Father, which He has glorified?
Besides, the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father said to the Father:

“I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word”.

John 17:6

What is the name of the Father, which has been manifested by His Son?

Without question, the name of the Father is JESUS. AMEN!

“And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord JESUS, giving thanks to God the Father through Him”.

Colossians 3:17

Please, tell me, if the name of the Father is JESUS, do you still see two people, two Gods in the biblical passage above?

If you still see JESUS as a small god beside the great God (YAHWEH), then, you need to have a revelation from God. May God enlighten you!

If you still see JESUS as the second Person of the trinity, then, you need to have a revelation from God. May God enlighten you!

Indeed, the Bible says:

« For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God”.

Colossians 3:3

Christ and God(Yahweh) are not two different people. There are not two different gods in whom our life is hidden. Christ and God stand for ONE PERSON. AMEN!
JESUS is God (YAHWEH) manifested in the flesh. The Father’s name is JESUS.

AMEN!

- The name of the Father, which must be hallowed, is JESUS.

Matthew 6:9

- The name of the Father, which He has glorified, is JESUS.
John 12:28

- The name of the Father, which has been manifested by His Son, is JESUS.

John 17:6, 26

- The name of the Father through which we are kept is JESUS.

John 17:11

- The name of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit for the baptism by immersion is JESUS.

Matthew 28: 19; Acts 2: 38

“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever”.

Hebrews 13:8

JESUS SAID: “HE WHO SEES ME SEES HIM WHO SENT ME.” (John 12:45)

Indeed, God is Spirit (John 4: 24), consequently, He is invisible (1Timithy 6:16; 1:17; Exodus 33:20).

This is why the Bible declares:

“If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?”

1 John 4: 20

However, in the Old Testament, several people have seen God.
For example:

- Abraham had seen God (Yahweh). He had seen three Men. One of them was the LORD manifested in the flesh. The Almighty GOD took a body of flesh and ate with Abraham (Genesis 18: 1-33). AMEN!

-“Jacob had seen God face to face” (Genesis 32:30) AMEN!

- Moses, Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, had seen the God of Israel. They saw God, and they ate and drank (Exodus 24: 9). AMEN!

- The LORD spoke to Moses face to face, as a Man speaks to his friend (Exodus 33:11). AMEN!

- Gideon had seen the Lord face to face and had conversed with Him (Judges 6: 11-24).

- Manoah said to his wife, “We shall surely die, because we have seen God!” (Judges 13: 22). AMEN!
In conclusion, the same God (YAHWEH) who took a body of flesh, by which He ate and spoke face to face to His servants, formerly, is the same one Who came in the New Testament, bearing the name JESUS. JESUS is the name of the Father through which He saves us today.

Remember what He said to Manoah:

« And the Angel of the LORD said to him, “Why do you ask My name, seeing it is wonderful?”

Judges 13:18

His name is wonderful. He is the One Who is called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9: 6). JESUS IS. Amen!
Moreover, Faithful Witness, He who is, He who was and He who is to come, First born from the dead, the Rose of Sharon, the Lily of the valley, the Bright Morning Star, the Alpha and the Omega, the Almighty, Immanuel, Counsellor, Prince of peace, Savior, Powerful God, the lion of the tribe of Judah, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, are titles and descriptions of the only one God (Yahweh).

But “JESUS” is the name by which He is revealed and saves us today (Acts 4:12).

This is the reason why the Bible declares:

“No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him”.

John 1:18

Besides JESUS said:

“All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him”.

Matthew 11:27

Through Jesus-Christ, thousands of people saw God in the New Testament and spoke to him face to face. AMEN!

Yes, God was made visible through Jesus-Christ:

« And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

John 20:28

“Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

John 20:29

Blessed are you if you believe that JESUS IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD. Amen!
He is not a small god beside God the Father. He is not the second Person of the trinity, but He is God (Yahweh) manifested in a body of flesh. Amen!

Do you understand the Holy Scriptures?

“Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves”.

John 14:8-11

“HE WHO HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER”.

HE WHO SEES ME SEES HIM WHO SENT ME

Do you understand the Holy Scriptures?

YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH (JESUS) IS THE ONE TRUE GOD, YAHWEH ALMIGHTY, THE LORD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE HEAVENLY FATHER!

AMEN ! AMEN! AMEN!

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http://www.inthedaysofthevoice.com

God has already spoken by His Prophet. Please recognize your day and its Message.

"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."

Revelation 3:22

May God bless you!

Bro. Germain

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[Caral]

Dear Della

I have to apologise but you lost my interest on the second sentence of your first post, particularly when I realised that their was swaythes of your copying and pasting.

I am totally naive in my understanding of Oneness and your modalistic view, which obviously must include patripassianism, and am astounded that this is actually believed.

I praise God that He has protected my theology and my orthodoxy, and as Jesus said "upon this rock I will build by church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it;"

Thank you Lord.

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

May GOD open your eyes!

Not two, not three, but only ONE PERSON: JESUS CHRIST.

JEUS CHRIST IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD

JESUS CHRIST IS THE HOLY SPIRIT

THE ALMIGHTY GOD IS THE HOLY SPIRIT

My Lord, please, reveal this truth to them sothat people can close debate about this issue on the BPN!

This is my prayer!

Bro. Germain