The Trinity is Bibical

[Rev. Derek Joshua E'Lon]

Is The Trinity Biblical?
From the Christian Research Institute
www.equip.org
The Trinity is a basic doctrine of orthodox Christianity. Yet the word "Trinity" is not found anywhere in the Bible. Is the doctrine of the Trinity really biblical?
The doctrine of the Trinity says that there is one All Mighty One (God) who exists eternally as three distinct persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I can assure you that the elements of this doctrine are all taken directly from the Bible.
The first plank of the Trinitarian platform is that there is only one All Mighty One (God). The Bible could not be more explicit on this point, which it states explicitly about two dozen times. In Isaiah 44:8 Yahweh (The LORD) says that even He does not know of any other (mighty ones)gods!
Yahshua (Jesus) often spoke of the All Mighty One (God) as His Father, and the apostles frequently spoke of "the Almighty One (God) the Father." But the New Testament also insists that Yahshua (Jesus) is The Almighty One (God). For example, Thomas acknowledged Yahshua (Jesus) as, "My Lord(master) and my Almighty One (God)" (John 20:28), and both Peter and Paul spoke of Yahshua (Jesus) as "our All Mighty One (God) and Savior" (2 Pet. 1:1; Tit. 2:13). Yet the New Testament also makes the distinction between the Father and the Son as two very different persons. In fact they tell us that they love one another, speak to each other, and seek to glorify each other (e.g., John 17: 1-26).
The Old Testament refers often to the Holy Spirit as The Almighty One (God) at work in the world, without distinction from the Father. But Yahshua (Jesus) in John 14 to 16 explained that this Holy Spirit would be sent by the Father at the Messiah’s (Christ's) request. The Holy Spirit would teach and guide the disciples, not speaking on His own initiative, but speaking on the Messiah’s 9Christ's) behalf and glorifying The messiah (Christ). Thus, the Holy Spirit is revealed by The Messiah (Christ) to be a third person distinct from the Father and distinct from the Son.
In short, the doctrine of the Trinity is completely and totally biblical, and it is essential that all the Followers of the Messiah Yahshua (Christians) give assent to this doctrine.

[Rest Of God Ministries]

AMEN AMEN AMEN! Sister Della

[Della Morton]

I love you too brother Busby! May be next time we meet you can show some REAL christian Love?Ha.ha,ha!
As Christians We are to pray for one another. God Bless you and make sure you pick up a bible on YOUR Side of the Room and READ IT AGAIN Before you come over to me and share False doctrine. Thanks LOVE IN CHRIST Della Morton

[Della Morton]

Titus 3:5:

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost."

Regeneration: Greek paliggenesia Strongs #3824--rebirth (born again), from #3825 palin=anew, once more and #1078 genesis=birth, nativity.

The second birth, called being born of the Spirit (John 3:8); born again (1Peter 1:23); born of God (1John 3:9, 4:7, 5:1, 5:4).

Regeneration here is the same as re-birth or born anew or again as found in John 3:3-5. Now where is there a washing of rebirth except in the waters of baptism as found in Romans 6:4-5?

Does a person receive this washing of regeneration and resurrection by saying I accept Jesus into my heart? No! Do they receive it by saying I accept the Lord Jesus as my personal Savior? No!

Where is washing by the blood of Jesus by which he saves us, in the same place as renewing in the Holy Ghost? It is found exclusively in Acts 2:38 and not grouped in any other single text in the New Testament. In one text we have both, and Paul writing to Titus says this is how he saved us. Therefore, this washing of regeneration is not works of man or Paul contradicted himself. Faith is not works of man. Faith is works of the Word of God. For faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God (Romans 10:17).

Acts 2:38 stands uncondemned in spite of the many attacks by trinitarians to destroy its message and meaning.

Can a doctrine be made from one verse in the Bible? Yes!
Man in His carnal thinking can take one verse and base the entire bible on it,But If The Entire Bible doesn't support it than The Person has taken it out of Context.If The One Scripture stands alone or another scripture that is ignored in the bible on the same topic It is OUT OF context. Paul was stating at least two or three witnesses to make the truth established backing one another up and not contradicting another verse it the bible.
2 Corinthians 13:1 (King James Version)
2 Corinthians 13
1This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.

The Holy Ghost spoke through Peter in Acts 2:38. Those words were not Peter's words. Why do so many always resist the Holy Ghost?

Is Acts 2:38 the only verse we have for baptism in the name of Jesus only? No, we have many text such as in Acts 8:12, Acts 10:48, Acts 19:5. And there are other text that indicate baptism into Christ and him alone for it is his death into which we are baptized (Romans 6:4-5). Then there is the text in Ephesians 4:5 of one Lord, one Faith, and one Baptism. We have plenty of verses to validate baptism into the name of Jesus Christ. Acts 2:38 is the pole-star of the Apostolic baptismal mode and method as practiced by the Apostles.

Now it must be understood that Acts 2:38 teaches salvation by grace through faith. Without this understanding a person can wrestle this verse unto their own destruction.

Repentance that is commanded in this text is an act of faith and the grace of forgiveness is given.
Water baptism that is commanded is an act of faith and the grace of remission of sins is given.
Holy Spirit baptism is commanded as a receiving by faith, and the grace of the gift of eternal life is given.

There is complete and full salvation by grace through faith in the obedience of Apostle Peter's preaching.

Anyone who teaches water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is not essential to salvation is preaching a false doctrine. Anyone who teaches water baptism according to Acts 2:38 is a work of man and is not of faith is teaching a false doctrine. Anyone who teaches that in Romans 6 that baptismal regeneration is not taught is teaching a false doctrine. Why follow after the cunning devises of men. Why not take the Apostle Peter's words unto your own heart as if you were there on the day of Pentecost.

What was the intent of the Apostle Peter in this text? Why do men pervert his intent? They asked the Apostles: "men and brethren what shall we do?" Why do men pervert the words of Peter in answer to this important question? They wanted to know what to do to be saved.

Things Peter did not say:
Peter did not say Calvary plus nothing;
Peter did not say believe in your heart and confess with your mouth Jesus Christ is Lord;
Peter did not say accept the Lord into your heart;
Peter did not say accept the Lord as your personal savior;
Peter did not say accept the Lord Jesus by faith;
Peter did not say receive Christ and have a personal relationship;
Peter did not say come as you are and believe you are saved because Jesus died for you;
Peter did not say come and receive holy communion and be saved from your sins;
Peter did not say come up and shake the preacher's hand and get the right hand of fellowship from the church members;
Peter did not say sign the church roll and you are saved;
Peter did not say confess you are a Baptist and you are saved without water baptism;
Peter did not say confess you are a Church of Christ and you are saved;
Peter did not say confess you are a Catholic and you are saved;
Peter did not say sign a prayer card as your profession of faith and you are saved;

What Peter did say:
Peter said repent;
Peter said to be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ:
Peter did say they would receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

What did the people do:
3,000 Israelites from the 12 tribes repented of their sins;
They asked to be baptized after the order Peter had preached;
There were baptized that day 3,000 souls;
They were added to the New Testament Church following their baptismal covenant.

What was the intent of the Apostle Peter:
He was following the command of Jesus that repentance and remission of sins was to be preached first in Jerusalem (Luke 24:49);
He was being obedient to the authority given him with the keys of the Kingdom (Matthew 16:19);
He now had power upon him by the Holy Ghost and so now he could witness the Gospel in its purity (Acts 1:8).

He intended the people to repent by faith;
He intended the people to be baptized by faith in water in the name of Jesus Christ that they may rise to walk in a newness of life;
He intended all the people to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost by faith and to be added to the Church as born again believers.

If the Apostle Peter did not intend all this by his preaching, he played one of the biggest jokes upon 3,000 Jews ever pulled upon Israelites. It is indeed sad and a shame that men would try to destroy this first Gospel message preached after Jesus ascended. It is a mockery that they would alter Peter's words and play alphabet soup with them until they totally destroy all faith, all grace, and all salvation that comes by Jesus Christ as contained in Acts 2:38.

Why do trinitarians want this verse destroyed?
It proves there never was a trinitarian phrase in the original Hebrew Matthew;
It proves baptism is in the New Testament name of God which is Jesus Christ;
It proves there is faith and grace in repentance and water baptism;
It proves according to Romans 6 there is baptismal regeneration from a dead corpse burial and a resurrection unto a new life;
It proves water baptism is essential to salvation;
It proves Mark 16:16--"he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, he that believeth not shall be damned" IS TRUE;
It proves there was one water baptism ordained by Jesus and this is the same as born of the water in John 3:3-5;
It proves all who are not baptized by faith to receive the grace by Christ alone, by grace alone, by faith alone, ARE NOT SAVED!

I urge all to receive the Word of God in Acts 2:38 and follow this. Do not follow the cunning lies of trinitarians who are sending more people to hell then the Muslims and Hindus by their lies and deceptions.

Go to Acts 2:38 and see of you can find evil in this verse or in Peter's intent. See if you can find in this verse any hint that these could be saved without repentance, without water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ, and without Holy Ghost baptism. Go there and see how 3,000 were added to the Church. Why, if these 3,000 were the first Gospel converts added to the New Testament Church after the ascension of Christ, MUST THE PATTERN BE CHANGED? Ask yourself if it was good enough for 3,000 to accept by faith and then find salvation into the Church, why it will HURT YOU!

Trinitarians have spread the lies that if you follow the Apostle Peter in Acts 2:38 it will hurt you. Some how you will be added to a cult instead of the Church. That some how you will become demon possessed and deceived. Don't be afraid to think outside the trinitarian box. Get out of the box. Don't let men deceive you so easily. Take the Word of God because it is Holy Spirit inspired. The Apostle Peter was speaking by the Holy Ghost when he commanded the multitude of Jews to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Any man who claims Peter was not speaking by the Holy Ghost is a devil. If Peter was speaking by the Holy Ghost, what was the intent of the Holy Ghost for those who heard the first Gospel message?

The intent of the Holy Ghost was for people to be saved!

How did the Holy Ghost tell the people to be saved through the lips of the Apostle Peter?

The Holy Ghost said through Peter REPENT!
The Holy Ghost said through Peter BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS!
The Holy Ghost said through Peter RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST!

Now, what will you do?

Will you follow the cunning lies and devices of Men who have always perverted the Word of God and followed traditions of Men Or will you believe the Pure Word of God for what it says ?

[Caral]

So we are to ignore what Jesus, the Messiah, the Holy one of Irsael, God incarnate when HE says.

"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

[Della Morton]

Amen Caral No we are not to Ignore any scripture. The Fulfillment of Matt.28:19 Is acts 2:38 and the people that obeyed this continued in the Apostles doctrine. Scripture Flows in Harmony. Some people on Here Want to ignore Water baptism all together and Make Their own Conclusions by stating it's not Necessary! What does scripture have to say?.

If Peter was wrong on the Day of Pentecost, he surely had ample time to be corrected before he went to the house of Cornelius. Was Peter wrong on the Day of Pentecost? When the hearers were pricked in their hearts, they spoke to Peter and the rest of the apostles (Acts 2:37). This included Matthew, who wrote Matthew 28:19. Moreover, when Peter preached, he stood up with the eleven (Acts 2:14).

Matthew was there, yet we find no words of correction from him. He surely would have spoken up if Peter had disobeyed the Lord. Bit all the apostles understood and carried out the Lord's commission. As Jesus said in a prayer, "I have manifested thy name unto the men (the apostles) which thou gavest me out of the world . . . and they have kept thy word" (John 17:6). The Samaritans, who were not Jews, were also baptized in the name of Jesus. "Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them . . . .But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. . . .They were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus" (Acts 8:5,12,16).

Let us see how Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, baptized. He went to Ephesus many years after the Day of Pentecost and found some disciples of John the Baptist there. "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus" (Acts 19:2-5).

Although these disciples had already been baptized, the name of Jesus was so important as to cause them to be rebaptized in His name. We do not believe that Paul changed the formula or mode of baptism when he baptized Lydia and her household (Acts 16:14-15) or the Philippian jailer. The latter came trembling and fell down before Paul and Silas, saying, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And he took them the same hour of the night (shortly after midnight), and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway" (Acts 16:30-33).

How can we doubt that Paul baptized these people using the same mode and formula that he used elsewhere, that is, immersion in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ? Paul was not with the apostles when Jesus gave His final instructions to them in Matthew 28:19 and Luke 24:47, yet Paul baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. How did he know what to do? He said that his gospel was not a tradition of men but a revelation from God. "I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it from of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ" (Galatians 1:11-12). Paul was chosen to bear Jesus' name to the Gentiles, and he wrote many divinely inspired epistles to the church. To this apostle, God revealed the mystery of the church, "which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit" (Ephesians 3:5). Paul claimed to have divine authority: "If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord" (I Corinthians 14:37). And Paul wrote, "Whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by Him" (Colossians 3:17). Water baptism is done both in word and deed.

We cannot afford to overlook this command to the church. The church is "built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone." (Ephesians 2:20). The apostles not only preached baptism in Jesus' name, but they practiced it. Nowhere can we find that they baptized using the words "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." Instead, we find them baptizing in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. In baptizing in Jesus' name, they fulfilled the command of the Lord in Matthew 28:19. Paul said, "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed" (Galatians 1:8). Let this be a solemn warning to us. Some say that they will accept the words of Jesus in Matthew 28:19 but not those of Peter in Acts 2:38. But Peter spoke on the Day of Pentecost under the anointing of the Holy Ghost. Peter was one of the apostles, and to him had been given the keys of the kingdom, so we have no right to discredit his words.

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

O Lord,

“The unfolding of your words gives light; it gives understanding to the simple”.

Psalm 119:130

Brothers and sisters in Christ,

Before understanding the word of God, you must first be SIMPLE.

I have read all your comments and I realize that some people have zeal for God but they do not have intelligence according to God (Romans 10:1-2).

The level of studies and the stock of general knowledge of the people do not count for God.

For example, before using a man God works or models him according to His will and He empties him from all his human acquired knowledge. Then God communicates His own thought and his own vision to him. You all know the example of Moses, Nicodemus, Brother Paul and so on.

So, Before understanding the word of God, you must first be SIMPLE.

Indeed, the Bible is the inspired, infallible Word of God (see 2 Tim. 3:16-17; 2 Pet. 1:20-21).

It is the final authority for the Christian on all matters of faith and doctrine (Acts 17: 11).

No single translation or human interpretation can be regarded as infallible. All writings or "revelations" must be analyzed in light of sound principles of biblical interpretation.

So, let us stop the debate about History. Everything being heard, the conclusion in that matter is that the Holy Bible remains our UNIQUE COMPASS, our ABSOLUTE. We all agree with that.

I think that a biblical question my have a biblical answer.

So I wish someone would provide insightful answers to my biblical Questions below.

Can someone explain me the verse 17 of John Chapter 14 ?

"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you".

"...AND SHALL BE IN YOU..."?

Besides, Brother Paul said:

"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me".

Galatians 2:20

"...BUT CHRIST LIVES IN ME..."

Do the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ represent TWO PERSONS who live in each believer?

Why does the Bible say that "...whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit"(1 Corinthians 6:17?

Which of the two equations below is in line with the Holy Scriptures? Please, justify your answer!

1- Jesus Christ + Holy Spirit = TWO PERSONS

2- Jesus Christ+ Holy Spirit= ONE PERSON


Besides, we all agree that there is ONE GOD.

But the Question lies in the fact that Trinitarians fail to explain clearly the following theory:

"THREE PERSONS IN GOD"

A -Father = one Person
The Son = one Person
Holy Spirit = one person

B-The Father is not the Son
The Son is not the Father

The Father is not the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is not the Father

The Son is not the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is not the Son


C- The Father is God + the Holy Spirit is God + the Son is God = THREE PERSONS =
ONE God

D- One God + One God+ One God = THREE PERSONS = ONE God

Can someone explain me why three Gods make THREE PERSONS but ONE GOD?

Brother Trevor and Brother Anthony Watson, I need your concrete and biblical answers to my questions above. Let down your theological background, and your historical demonstrations.

After that we will tackle the question related to the baptism. Brother Anthony has said many things about this issue. We will analyze it also. We must make an indepth study.

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

What is interesting is that water baptism was not the main focus of JESUS teaching o baptism, but the baptism of the HOLY GHOST. If John said that he baptized in water, but He will baptize you with the HOLY GHOST, then why do you believe that Matthew 28:19 means water baptism? Because the word "baptism" is there? You're putting much stress into the carnal thing and little stress into the eternal thing. You are quicker to argue about what to say when dunking a person under water, than to argue why the baptism of the HOLY GHOST is superior to all and essential for all. I in no way am, saying to do away with it. What I am saying is this: water baptism is at best an outward show of what happens inwardly. The HOLY GHOST is what saves and seals a believer not water baptism. All the believers in the Book of Acts were sealed with the HOLY GHOST and with fire, not with the pool of water. Place things in proper perspective. If you don't believe me, then believe this: EVERYONE and their mother is saying "baptize me in water", but not everyone wants the baptism of the HOLY GHOST!! WHY!?!? Simply because 1) its the real deal, and 2) no one teaches on the power of the HOLY GHOST but love to talk about dunking you in a tub or pool in JESUS name, thus causing alot to not even believe in it to this very day. Which baptism is superior, John's (water) or Christ's (the HOLY GHOST)?

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

O Lord,

“The unfolding of your words gives light; it gives understanding to the simple”.

Psalm 119:130

Brothers and sisters in Christ,

Before understanding the word of God, you must first be SIMPLE.

I have read all your comments and I realize that some people have zeal for God but they do not have intelligence according to God (Romans 10:1-2).

The level of studies and the stock of general knowledge of the people do not count for God.

For example, before using a man God works or models him according to His will and He empties him from all his human acquired knowledge. Then God communicates His own thought and his own vision to him. You all know the example of Moses, Nicodemus, Brother Paul and so on.

So, Before understanding the word of God, you must first be SIMPLE.

Indeed, the Bible is the inspired, infallible Word of God (see 2 Tim. 3:16-17; 2 Pet. 1:20-21).

It is the final authority for the Christian on all matters of faith and doctrine (Acts 17: 11).

No single translation or human interpretation can be regarded as infallible. All writings or "revelations" must be analyzed in light of sound principles of biblical interpretation.

So, let us stop the debate about History. Everything being heard, the conclusion in that matter is that the Holy Bible remains our UNIQUE COMPASS, our ABSOLUTE. We all agree with that.

I think that a biblical question my have a biblical answer.

So I wish someone would provide insightful answers to my biblical Questions below.

Can someone explain me the verse 17 of John Chapter 14 ?

"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you".

"...AND SHALL BE IN YOU..."?

Besides, Brother Paul said:

"I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me".

Galatians 2:20

"...BUT CHRIST LIVES IN ME..."

Do the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ represent TWO PERSONS who live in each believer?

Why does the Bible say that "...whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit"(1 Corinthians 6:17?

Which of the two equations below is in line with the Holy Scriptures? Please, justify your answer!

1- Jesus Christ + Holy Spirit = TWO PERSONS

2- Jesus Christ+ Holy Spirit= ONE PERSON


Besides, we all agree that there is ONE GOD.

But the Question lies in the fact that Trinitarians fail to explain clearly the following theory:

"THREE PERSONS IN GOD"

A -Father = one Person
The Son = one Person
Holy Spirit = one person

B-The Father is not the Son
The Son is not the Father

The Father is not the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is not the Father

The Son is not the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is not the Son


C- The Father is God + the Holy Spirit is God + the Son is God = THREE PERSONS =
ONE God

D- One God + One God+ One God = THREE PERSONS = ONE God

Can someone explain me why three Gods make THREE PERSONS but ONE GOD?

Brother Trevor and Brother Anthony Watson, I need your concrete and biblical answers to my questions above. Let down your theological background, and your historical demonstrations.

After that we will tackle the question related to the baptism. Brother Anthony has said many things about this issue. We will analyze it also. We must make an indepth study.

Blessings,

Bro. Germain

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Since I realize that Trinitarians are avoiding my questions above, I must conclude that they agree with me.

Thus, they recognize that their satanic doctrine has no biblical ground, proof.

I'm off line each week-end.

Next, week, thanks to Jesus we will tackle the issue concerning the water baptism and the Holy Spirit baptism. We will make an indepth study about this issue.

Have a good week-End and may God bless you all!

Bro. Germain

[N'ZI Amani Germain]

Thank you Anthony Watson,

Second step: Please be sincere and answer this question with biblical references:

How can three Gods make THREE PERSONS but ONE GOD?

Thanks in advance!

Bro. Germain

[Archbishop Trevor 'Elihu' Greene]

Well said.......

[Caral]

Amen.

A most excellent post!